More than 68% of New European Electricity Capacity Came From Wind and Solar in 2011

[kristopher]

79. You've shown nothing, Josh.

Except that you don't understand the subject matter; which is a shame really since it is a subject that isn't very difficult to acquire at least the fundamentals.

Take your inability to comprehend why advances in the first world will, in fact, keep fossil fuels in the ground in the rest of the world. It really isn't difficult: Germany is criticized for the burden that renewable subsidies place on the German taxpayer. The right loves to howl that it is a demonstration of the failure of energy planning. In fact it is a stellar success since the point of the policy wasn't to provide inexpensive power to this generation of renewable deployment, but was instead to jump start a socially desirable industry for the good of both future Germany and the rest of the world.

When renewables are less expensive than fossil fuels, fossil fuels WILL be left in the ground. The more we focus on developing and deploying renewable energy technologies - particularly solar and wind - the sooner we move the priceline for renewables below that of fossil. And right now there are a large number of opportunities to create economic winners with the process of encouraging renewables.

It really isn't complex and Lovins has it right. As someone that both cares a great deal about global warming and also understands the nature of the technical and economic challenge better than most I find your arguments unconscionable.