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Nihil

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20. It will be a wonderfully clean source of energy if/when it arrives but that is missing the point.
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:39 AM
Mar 2015

(or "points" as there are more than one of them)

1) Fusion has always been a decade or two in the future so, at the moment, it is *not*
a "source of energy that would make coal and natural gas obsolete to make electricity".

2) Until it moves from the indeterminate future into the now, its only function is to provide
yet another excuse to maintain Business As Usual rather than *reducing* energy consumption.

3) The mindset ruling the human civilisation is absurdly immature and totally incapable of
handling "boundless free energy" without accelerating the rate of devastation to the ecosphere.


> Its by product is helium.
> No more coal sludge. No open pit coal mines. Mr. Peabocy's coal train disappears.

In an ideal world, fusion like this is *exactly* what we'd want to power our utopian society
where all people are equal and the environment respected.

In the real world, (of today and the next decade or so at least), boundless energy (clean or
not) has only one purpose: to make the filthy rich even richer at the expense of everyone
and everything else.


> You are wrong on this one.

I wish I were but my eyes watching the events of every passing day tell me otherwise.

500 MilliWatts is hardly impressive - does it produce nuclear waste? Romeo.lima333 Mar 2015 #1
Fusion reactions produce *much* less radioactive waste than fission reactions. eppur_se_muova Mar 2015 #2
Thats true for DD & DT fuels. FogerRox Mar 2015 #9
The waste for fusion is helium. Makes you sound funny when you talk. immoderate Mar 2015 #3
Hydrogen fusion waste is helium. longship Mar 2015 #4
Waste depends on the fusion fuel. FogerRox Mar 2015 #8
An operational fusion reactor in just 10 years Optical.Catalyst Mar 2015 #5
anything new?, or is this 4 months old?...nt quadrature Mar 2015 #6
I hope not. Humans don't need any more energy to eat the earth. hunter Mar 2015 #7
Energy doesn't eat the earth. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #10
No, humans with excess energy eat the Earth. nt GliderGuider Mar 2015 #11
Imagine a mess of these machines, powered by fusion... hunter Mar 2015 #13
They are moving earth, rearanging the furniture, not eating it. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #14
And the plants and animals on top of that earth? NickB79 Mar 2015 #15
We need better environmental laws. but this has nothing to do with a new source of energy. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #16
It has everything to do with a new source of energy. Nihil Mar 2015 #18
They have a source of energy that would make coal and natural gas obsolete Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #19
It will be a wonderfully clean source of energy if/when it arrives but that is missing the point. Nihil Mar 2015 #20
"might" "could" "may" - the usual Fusion Fail with Weaksauce hatrack Mar 2015 #12
The oil industry Binkie The Clown Mar 2015 #17
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