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OKIsItJustMe

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17. Well, that certainly sucked
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 06:58 PM
Dec 2011

However, it’s difficult to draw many conclusions from it, other than that a vulture was killed by a collision with a wind turbine. Where did this happen? When did it happen? How often does it happen?

I believe ABCbirds has overstated their case.

I much prefer the Audubon Society’s stance:
http://policy.audubon.org/wind-power-overview-0



Rationale: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) has clearly stated that the impacts of climate change are here now and will get worse.[1] Scientists have found that climate change has already affected half of the world's wild species' breeding, distribution, abundance and survival rates.[2] By mid-century, the IPCC predicts that climate change may contribute to the extinction of 20-30 percent of all species on earth.

In order to prevent species extinctions and other catastrophic impacts of climate change, scientists say we must reduce global warming emissions by at least 80 percent by 2050. Reducing pollution from fossil fuels to this degree will require rapidly expanding energy and fuel efficiency, renewable energy and alternative fuels, and changes in land use, agriculture, and transportation. To avoid catastrophe, we need to do all of these.

Wind power is an important part of the strategy to combat global warming. Wind power is currently the most economically competitive form of renewable energy. It provides nearly 15,000 megawatts of power in the United States, enough power for more than 3 million households, and could provide up to 20 percent of the country's electricity needs. Every megawatt-hour produced by wind energy avoids an average of 1,220 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions. If the United States obtains 20 percent of its electricity from wind power by 2020, it will reduce global warming emissions equivalent to taking 71 million cars off the road or planting 104 million acres of trees. Expanding wind power instead of fossil fuels also avoids the wildlife and human health impacts of oil and gas drilling, coal mining and fossil fuel burning.

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I live next to a LARGE wind farm. I have never seen a bird hurt by it. Vincardog Dec 2011 #1
Not all windfarms are equal in this respect. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #2
ABC might be unduly influenced by antirenewable interests. kristopher Dec 2011 #9
Naturally, the American Wind Energy Association cannot be considered entirely neutral in this matter OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #11
Naturally, however their information here does, in fact, have a high degree of validity. kristopher Dec 2011 #13
Swarovski = Big Optics XemaSab Dec 2011 #12
I reckon they've been paid off by Mitsubishi... Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #19
No wonder you are gaga over nuclear power. kristopher Dec 2011 #37
And people think the Germans have no sense of humour. nt Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #41
Already being done? Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #3
Federal agency proposes voluntary guidelines for wind power developers to avoid bird deaths XemaSab Dec 2011 #4
OK, I'm surprised... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #5
Audubon's Position on Wind Power OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #6
Today... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #7
”The government estimates that a minimum of 440,000 birds are currently killed each year…” OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #8
ABCbirds can’t get their story straight OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #14
Putting 440,000 bird deaths into perspective OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #15
. XemaSab Dec 2011 #16
Well, that certainly sucked OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #17
Power line pylon killed Berkley the adopted vulture, together with all the hopes of the environmenta OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #18
My friends in Ohio XemaSab Dec 2011 #20
Well, the conclusion (in this case) was that transmission lines should be made safer OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #25
Altamont Pass, a nasty start... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #28
Faster turbines, slower turbines OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #36
Yes, tip speed my be faster, but... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #39
But more vultures are killed by cats. Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #21
That's why you should keep your damn cat in the damn house XemaSab Dec 2011 #22
What, and pay for food? Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #23
Do they like rare, endemic parrots? XemaSab Dec 2011 #24
Nah... Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #26
I know how to stop a parrot from screeching OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #27
First, catch your parrot... Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #30
Beautiful plumage… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #35
Here’s a fascinating study OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #10
There's another "wind kills birds" piece floating around the web. Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #29
That's a little rich... Dead_Parrot Dec 2011 #31
Eh, power lines are a big contributor, too. joshcryer Dec 2011 #32
Yes, check out the studies I mentioned OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #34
I'm merely saying, it would be inaccurate to say "technology that requires X..." joshcryer Dec 2011 #42
So, the obvious answer is to bury the cables OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #43
Would burying cables actually be more expensive? Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #44
Estimates vary… OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #45
Yeah, but that's not happening and may not be necessary. joshcryer Dec 2011 #46
We wouldn’t want to save too many birds… (Right?) ;-) OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #47
Oh, I agree, absolutely. joshcryer Dec 2011 #48
Yes, it's Virginia OKIsItJustMe Dec 2011 #33
The NYT is turning into a POS when it comes to the environment... Bob Wallace Dec 2011 #40
Mark Desholm is the leading authority on investigating avian interactions with wind technology kristopher Dec 2011 #38
Well meaning fools or AstroTurf? You decide. txlibdem Dec 2011 #49
Here's an LA Times article about this: XemaSab Dec 2011 #50
"an industry lobbying group" joshcryer Dec 2011 #51
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