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Octafish

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6. The Rich don't care. They've got Options. Media silence means no panic.
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:02 AM
Apr 2015
The Really Creepy People Behind the Libertarian-Inspired Billionaire Sea Castles

The stinking rich are planning billion-dollar luxury liners that keep the land-based Americans they've plundered at a safe distance.

AlterNet / By Mark Ames
June 1, 2010

What happens when Americans plunder America and leave it broken, destitute and seething mad? Where do these fabulously wealthy Americans go with their loot, if America isn't a safe, secure, or even desirable place to spend their riches? What if they lose faith in their gated communities, because those plush gated communities are surrounded by millions of pissed-off Americans stripped of their entitlements, and who now want in?

The first such floating castle has been christened the " Utopia"--the South Korean firm Samsung has been contracted to build the $1.1 billion ship, due to be launched in 2013. Already orders are coming in to buy one of the Utopia's 200 or so mansions for sale- -which range in price from about $4 million for the smallest condos to over $26 million for 6,600 square-foot "estates." The largest mansion is a whopping 40,000 square feet, and sells for $160 million.

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Both Thiel and Milton Friedman's grandson see democracy as the enemy--last year, Thiel wrote "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible" at about the same time that Milton Friedman's grandson proclaimed, "Democracy is not the answer." Both published their anti-democracy proclamations in the same billionaire-Koch-family-funded outlet, Cato Unbound, one of the oldest billionaire-fed libertarian welfare dispensaries. Friedman's answer for Thiel's democracy problem is to build offshore libertarian pod-fortresses where the libertarian way rules. It's probably better for everyone if Milton Friedman's grandson and Peter Thiel leave us forever for their libertarian ocean lair--Thiel believes that America went down the tubes ever since it gave women the right to vote, and he was outed as the sponsor of accused felon James O'Keefe's smear videos that brought ACORN to ruin.

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While neither Bush nor the Bin Ladens are principals in the Frontier Group, its founding director, Frank Carlucci, is a name they know well, and you should too. Carlucci ran the Carlyle Group as its chairman from 1989 through 2005, right around the time that the wars started going undeniably bad, and floating castles started to look like a viable plan. But Carlucci's past is much weirder and scarier than most of us care to know: whether it's his strangely timed appearances in some of the ugliest assassinations and coups in modern history, or serving as Carter's number two man in the CIA, and Ronald Reagan's Secretary of Defense, if Frank Carlucci (nicknamed "Creepy Carlucci" and "Spooky Frank&quot is the founding director of a firm that's building floating castles, it's a bad sign for those of us left behind.

I'll get into Carlucci's partners in the Frontier Group in a moment, but first, let's reacquaint ourselves with Frank Carlucci. From an early age, Carlucci learned the importance of getting to know the right people in the right places. He studied at Princeton in the mid-1950s, where as luck should have it, Carlucci roomed with Donald Rumsfeld. Both Carlucci and Rumsfeld shared a passion for Greco-Roman wrestling at Princeton, and both went on to serve in the Navy after Princeton. Their paths would split and merge several times over the next few decades, even as they remained close personal friends throughout their lives. In the late 1950s, Carlucci briefly served as an executive at a lingerie manufacturer, Jantzen (the Victoria's Secret of its day), but quickly left to join the State Department.

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http://www.alternet.org/story/147058/the_really_creepy_people_behind_the_libertarian-inspired_billionaire_sea_castles

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K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #1
It really needs to.... daleanime Apr 2015 #16
Worthy of the time to read the whole piece. nt procon Apr 2015 #2
And another thing. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #3
They have become servants of the 0.001% n2doc Apr 2015 #5
Ultimately, the failure is OURS!!! Dustlawyer Apr 2015 #12
I'm open to specific suggestions. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #33
Sorry to butt in, but just a thought BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #41
I will agree that public financing for elections is the key issue. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #43
I'm not sure about public financing as the number one issue BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #44
There is no question in my mind that the #1 issue is Public Financing of campaigns. RiverLover Apr 2015 #52
I do think it is very important and the only way to change the system we have BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #62
Hammer meet nail! Nailed it! Dustlawyer Apr 2015 #60
You are doing good work spreading the word and hammering on this issue BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #63
Excellent post. Send me a private message next time you want to organize something. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #49
Thank you. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #48
I recently read The Weather Makers mountain grammy Apr 2015 #4
The Rich don't care. They've got Options. Media silence means no panic. Octafish Apr 2015 #6
The uber rich want capitalism without democracy fasttense Apr 2015 #9
Thank you for putting it into words so perfectly, fasttense. Octafish Apr 2015 #14
Thanks but I really can't take credit for it. fasttense Apr 2015 #39
You're what I call a 'Real Democrat.' Octafish Apr 2015 #40
+10 appalachiablue Apr 2015 #15
What this planet really needs is democracy without capitalism. K & R +1,000 PatrickforO Apr 2015 #35
I've never heard of this Carlucci dude before. Wow. RiverLover Apr 2015 #11
BFEE Frank worked the Congo for Allen Dulles until Lumumba died, coincidentally... Octafish Apr 2015 #26
And who do they think is going to maintain these 'floating castles'? Stonepounder Apr 2015 #19
Right beneath your post, Stonepounder. You and I had essentially the same response to that tblue37 Apr 2015 #25
GMTA tblue37 n/t Stonepounder Apr 2015 #36
+1. nt tblue37 Apr 2015 #38
+1 Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #58
When 96% of the marine species go extinct because ocean acidification is on par with tblue37 Apr 2015 #22
Because their money shields them from consequences BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #42
Ship of Fools pscot Apr 2015 #24
K&R abelenkpe Apr 2015 #7
I'm going to get a bumper sticker similar to the "Bee" one. BlueJazz Apr 2015 #8
who owns the media beachbum bob Apr 2015 #10
K&R!!! 2naSalit Apr 2015 #13
Kick n Rec n/t Earth Bound Misfit Apr 2015 #17
Bbbut the earth has been cooling for 16 years nxylas Apr 2015 #18
Everytime I read about the potential candidates SCVDem Apr 2015 #20
Killing Drought in California, Brazil, Australia... Octafish Apr 2015 #27
Mad Max here we come SCVDem Apr 2015 #28
+1 on that bit ... Nihil Apr 2015 #64
The media, at least here has been a big failure for sometime still_one Apr 2015 #21
Biggest story since the Plague pscot Apr 2015 #23
What media? IHateTheGOP Apr 2015 #29
Titanic II father founding Apr 2015 #30
I just read the whole piece. PatrickforO Apr 2015 #31
Merchants Of Doubt - Source Of Climate Change Denial cantbeserious Apr 2015 #32
Seriously cantbeserious, thank you for posting this! Fascinating how in 10 years, TEN years, RiverLover Apr 2015 #37
You Are Welcome - Please Share Broadly cantbeserious Apr 2015 #46
K&R! Thanks for posting! hue Apr 2015 #34
An asteroid wouldn't be inconvenient. Climate change requires that WE change our behavior. Gregorian Apr 2015 #45
b-b-bbbbbbbut there is no global warming redruddyred Apr 2015 #47
If a killer asteroid were headed toward Earth, and the Koch brothers made money off denying it, tclambert Apr 2015 #50
K & R Thespian2 Apr 2015 #51
K&R marym625 Apr 2015 #53
Discussion of climate change upsets rich people because it implies that their unrestrained whereisjustice Apr 2015 #54
K and R. We are owned and screwn. LuckyLib Apr 2015 #55
Excellent post. rainmaker21 Apr 2015 #56
They will live like kings until the Apocalypse comes. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #57
No "top down" solution from those who are responsable - only distraction and death Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #59
K&R. Very disturbing to me too. Shows how strong corporate control of our media is. Overseas Apr 2015 #61
That is a bit optimistic ... Nihil Apr 2015 #65
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