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kristopher

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Sat Mar 3, 2012, 04:08 PM Mar 2012

Comparing Energy Costs per Mile for Electric and Gasoline Vehicles [View all]

Comparing Energy Costs per Mile for Electric and Gasoline Vehicles

The fuel cost of driving an electric vehicle depends on the cost of electricity per kilowatt-hour (kWh) and the energy efficiency of the vehicle. For example, to determine the energy cost per mile of an electric vehicle, select the location on the left axis (Electricity Cost per kWh) at $0.09 in the graph below. Draw a horizontal line to the right until you bisect the EV 3 mile/kWh line. Now draw a vertical line down until you bisect the bottom axis (Energy Cost per Mile). This tells you that the fuel for an electric vehicle with an energy efficiency of 3 mile/kWh costs about $0.03/mile when electricity costs $0.09/kWh.



The national average cost for electricity in the United States is about $0.075/kWh, while the average residential rate is about $0.089/kWh. Some electric utilities have had electric vehicle charging rates that vary by time of use, day, and season. These rates can range from $0.03 to $0.50/kWh. Older electric vehicles have energy efficiencies of about 2 mile/kWh. Some electric vehicles, such as the EV1 from General Motors, had energy efficiencies of over 6 mile/kWh.

To determine the energy cost per mile of a gasoline vehicle, pick the location on the right axis (Gasoline Cost per gallon) at $2.50. Draw a horizontal line to the left until you bisect the Gas 18 mile/gal line. Now draw a vertical line down until you bisect the bottom axis (Energy Cost per Mile). This tells you that the fuel for a gasoline vehicle with an energy efficiency of 18 mile/gal costs about $0.139/mile when gasoline costs $2.50/gallon.

The mileage for commercial fleet vehicles, such as light-duty pickups, ranges from below 17 to about 22 mile/gal. The energy cost per mile is also included for a hybrid electric vehicle with an energy efficiency of 40 mile/gal, as these types of vehicles are increasingly being used.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/avta/light_duty/fsev/fsev_gas_elec2.html
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John Michael Greer on the electric car chaska Mar 2012 #1
There so many holes in that it would be hard to start madokie Mar 2012 #3
I was thinking that it would have been nice if Greer had included some numbers GliderGuider Mar 2012 #4
That same article was in the paper that the local rural electric co-op puts out madokie Mar 2012 #5
WRONG!!!!! PamW Mar 2012 #9
CORRECT!! PamW Mar 2012 #11
See post #25 kristopher Mar 2012 #37
Nothing there PamW Mar 2012 #41
It categorically refutes your conclusion kristopher Mar 2012 #43
Comparison of CO2 emissions by various technologies under differing policies kristopher Mar 2012 #25
Another factor to consider when looking hybrid/elecrtic vehicles is climate. liberal N proud Mar 2012 #2
I think that most if not all heat the seats and steering wheel rather than the air in the vehicle madokie Mar 2012 #6
You aren't going to get away with cooling the seats only in the south.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #7
Most of the time you'd pre-heat or pre-cool the EV before unplugging it txlibdem Mar 2012 #8
Taxing the batteries. PamW Mar 2012 #12
How is it taxing the batteries when the car is still plugged in? txlibdem Mar 2012 #13
You said the EV's would only have cooling for the seats and wheel.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #15
Draw well under a kilowatt. Heat is the main killer. Even AC isn't too bad. nt dmallind Mar 2012 #17
The average blow dryer is about a kilowatt.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #18
Well jeez I can believe you or my car's specs and consumption data dmallind Mar 2012 #26
Have you actually had it in really hot and humid weather yet? Fumesucker Mar 2012 #28
In Feb-Mar? No - but try this dmallind Mar 2012 #29
It looks like 11 miles is cut from your range if I'm reading the display correctly.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #30
The guessometer is called that for a reason. I get 4.6m/kW. dmallind Mar 2012 #31
Ah, some numbers to work with.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #33
EXACTLY!!! PamW Mar 2012 #35
Perhaps you could document the draw of a modern auto AC compressor. kristopher Mar 2012 #36
I found this article about electrically driven compressors for cars.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #38
So let's say this wild scenario is actually real. dmallind Mar 2012 #39
Oh, a misunderstanding. That was not me who posted that. txlibdem Mar 2012 #19
Oops.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #20
Don't be. When I became disabled I had to cancel my order for the Nissan Leaf txlibdem Mar 2012 #21
Sorry to hear of your troubles.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #24
No worries txlibdem Mar 2012 #34
My scenario PamW Mar 2012 #42
Granted, that would drain energy from the battery txlibdem Mar 2012 #44
I was just relating what I've read in their promotionals madokie Mar 2012 #22
WRONG!!!!! PamW Mar 2012 #10
watch this vid for a more realistic and optimistic take greenman3610 Mar 2012 #14
Electric vehicles are the only ones that will get cleaner as they get older txlibdem Mar 2012 #45
And the cheapest line is a high estimate dmallind Mar 2012 #16
You're a good driver. tinrobot Mar 2012 #23
Do you have hills? dmallind Mar 2012 #27
It's a mix... tinrobot Mar 2012 #32
Not real familiar with the BMW in great detail I'm afraid dmallind Mar 2012 #40
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