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caraher

(6,364 posts)
5. Because it maintains a business model
Wed May 6, 2015, 10:52 PM
May 2015

The one thing hydrogen for transportation has going for it is a certain familiarity for the consumer. We buy a vehicle, drive it around, and every so often put a chemical fuel inside. That's what we do now.

With present battery technology, EVs require some changes of habit, because charging takes more time than fueling. I asked Steven Chu about the latest round of hydrogen hype and he told me the Toyota engineers with whom he'd spoken say it's all about the convenience and speed of refueling. They're betting that wins out over the other considerations.

It's hard to make money from charging batteries. By contrast, if you need to buy a specialized fuel, you become dependent on suppliers of that fuel. In this case, those suppliers are pretty powerful energy companies focused on fossil fuels. It would be more surprising if they just decided to fold up and say their era is ending.

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It's a net energy loss from the start, and then we don't have a hydrogen infrastructure. Fail! Gregorian May 2015 #1
I've about had enough of your bullsh*t nationalize the fed May 2015 #2
I'm not doing it for me. I'm doing it for the people who might not know better. Gregorian May 2015 #3
“A net energy loss from the start” OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #6
I agree. Gregorian May 2015 #7
Except that I disagree; it’s far from a “no brainer” OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #8
Yes, but the topic is about cars, and that's not a best use. Gregorian May 2015 #10
The comparison to an internal combustion engine doesn’t seem apropos OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #11
Imperfect Graphene Opens Door to Better Fuel Cells OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #14
Sorry, I spaced on that reply. My brain was somewhere else. Gregorian May 2015 #15
“The big bottom line for me is the infrastructure, or lack thereof.” OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #16
I can't figure out how this will ever be economically feasible? mackdaddy May 2015 #4
Because it maintains a business model caraher May 2015 #5
I think Chu (and Toyota) are right OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #9
Not really. hunter May 2015 #12
Now, wait a second here OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #13
Ever compare the cost of a hydrogen fueling station to a charging station? caraher May 2015 #17
How many charging stations are needed to support as many cars as one filling station? OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #18
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