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OKIsItJustMe

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14. Imperfect Graphene Opens Door to Better Fuel Cells
Fri May 8, 2015, 05:18 PM
May 2015
http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2015/03/imperfect-graphene-opens-door-to-better-fuel-cells.html
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Imperfect Graphene Opens Door to Better Fuel Cells[/font]
[font size=4]Membrane could lead to fast-charging batteries for transportation[/font]

March 17, 2015


The world’s thinnest proton channel: A few hydroxylated defect sites allow for simple and speedy proton transfer through pristine single-layer graphene. (Credit: University of Minnesota)

[font size=3]EVANSTON, Ill. --- The honeycomb structure of pristine graphene is beautiful, but Northwestern University scientists, together with collaborators from five other institutions, have discovered that if the graphene naturally has a few tiny holes in it, you have a proton-selective membrane that could lead to improved fuel cells.



“We found if you just dial the graphene back a little on perfection, you will get the membrane you want,” said Geiger, a professor of chemistry in the Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences. “Everyone always strives to make really pristine graphene, but our data show if you want to get protons through, you need less perfect graphene.”



Removing a few carbon atoms results in others being highly reactive, which starts the proton shuttling process. Only protons go through the tiny holes, making the membrane very selective. (Conventional membranes are not very selective.)

“Our results will not make a fuel cell tomorrow, but it provides a mechanism for engineers to design a proton separation membrane that is far less complicated than what people had thought before,” Geiger said. “All you need is slightly imperfect single-layer graphene.”

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It's a net energy loss from the start, and then we don't have a hydrogen infrastructure. Fail! Gregorian May 2015 #1
I've about had enough of your bullsh*t nationalize the fed May 2015 #2
I'm not doing it for me. I'm doing it for the people who might not know better. Gregorian May 2015 #3
“A net energy loss from the start” OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #6
I agree. Gregorian May 2015 #7
Except that I disagree; it’s far from a “no brainer” OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #8
Yes, but the topic is about cars, and that's not a best use. Gregorian May 2015 #10
The comparison to an internal combustion engine doesn’t seem apropos OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #11
Imperfect Graphene Opens Door to Better Fuel Cells OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #14
Sorry, I spaced on that reply. My brain was somewhere else. Gregorian May 2015 #15
“The big bottom line for me is the infrastructure, or lack thereof.” OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #16
I can't figure out how this will ever be economically feasible? mackdaddy May 2015 #4
Because it maintains a business model caraher May 2015 #5
I think Chu (and Toyota) are right OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #9
Not really. hunter May 2015 #12
Now, wait a second here OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #13
Ever compare the cost of a hydrogen fueling station to a charging station? caraher May 2015 #17
How many charging stations are needed to support as many cars as one filling station? OKIsItJustMe May 2015 #18
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