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23. We've passed the tipping point. That's the elephant in the room no one speaks about.
Sun May 17, 2015, 05:34 PM
May 2015

We've triggered the methane clathrate explosion in the arctic, which will accelerate the process and serve as a positive feedback loop. We've put so much heat into the ocean that the crumbling of the Antarctic ice shelves is unstoppable, leading to the on land glaciers flowing into the sea and a massive sea level increase. I could go on. All of the predicted effects are occurring, much faster than predicted.

And the US is following a feel-good 'all of the above' energy policy. More wind turbines AND more drilling for oil in the arctic, too! And this is from President Obama, by far the best choice in the 2008 general election -- imagine where we'd be if he'd lost.

None of the measures proposed and talked about endlessly by the establishment would even dent the problem. And we can't even get the half-measures enacted, for the most part.

People will only take the problem seriously when it is too serious to be ignored. When Florida cities are underwater and there is a lack of food on the supermarket shelves. By then, it will be far too late.

The scientists working in this field know this reality. This system that they can't get to change, to stop the emissions, also is their source of funds. The government that gives subsidies to fossil fuel producers also funds their research. They are trying their best, and have been for a long time, to convince lawmakers to change, but it is pretty hopeless.

For most of them, I guess it's now an interesting intellectual puzzle, to forecast our doom.

James Hansen said that he expects civilization to collapse in about 30 years. (that was at least 10 years ago). Once industrial civilization ends, with an accompanying decline in population, our emission outputs will drop to pre-industrial levels. That seems like the only way humanity will 'handle' this problem. It's just a question of when, and how much the total damage will be to this beautiful blue planet.

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Yup. F4lconF16 May 2015 #1
The mass extinction event is happening all around us NOW. hunter May 2015 #17
130 views and 3 recs? F4lconF16 May 2015 #2
People simple don't want to look at the truth of this.... daleanime May 2015 #10
K & R, will read the underlying article later dreamnightwind May 2015 #3
I've been saying this for a decade now. We're screwed, blewed and tattooed. GliderGuider May 2015 #4
+1000 nt Mojorabbit May 2015 #5
You and me both. Only with a crash program can we even begin to ameliorate the Nay May 2015 #6
I think it's already too late. tclambert May 2015 #8
Well, the oil companies want to make that extra penny in profit. tclambert May 2015 #7
My grown sons know what's coming. dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #11
I am very grateful that I do not have children, truebluegreen May 2015 #12
I want children. F4lconF16 May 2015 #18
Over-react much? truebluegreen May 2015 #27
Doesn't make sense to me either. dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #25
Yes. I fear we have "made our beds," as it were. truebluegreen May 2015 #28
The political will is the key. Enthusiast May 2015 #32
kick, kick, kick.... daleanime May 2015 #9
here's why those in power aren't worried enough to do anything: Voice for Peace May 2015 #13
You are right, and those poorest regions do not have a voice, so polly7 May 2015 #15
and THAT's the even WORSE awful truth nobody wants to hear. Voice for Peace May 2015 #19
I believe we will hear more than a whimper dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #29
They already are, and have been for years. polly7 May 2015 #31
K & R +++++++++++ Thespian2 May 2015 #14
They WANT a mass extinction of what they consider to be "useless eaters". Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #21
+1 LiberalLoner May 2015 #26
The sick fact is that some people make money off of disruptions n2doc May 2015 #16
“tilted against many of the world’s poorest regions,” Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #20
And the IPCC models do not include all sources of global warming, only man made CO2. mackdaddy May 2015 #22
We've passed the tipping point. That's the elephant in the room no one speaks about. Dems to Win May 2015 #23
Humanity is already on the slippery slope toward extinction. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #24
One of my favorite jokes on this topic - "Political Leadership" hatrack May 2015 #30
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