Environment & Energy
In reply to the discussion: The awful truth about climate change no one wants to admit [View all]Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)We've triggered the methane clathrate explosion in the arctic, which will accelerate the process and serve as a positive feedback loop. We've put so much heat into the ocean that the crumbling of the Antarctic ice shelves is unstoppable, leading to the on land glaciers flowing into the sea and a massive sea level increase. I could go on. All of the predicted effects are occurring, much faster than predicted.
And the US is following a feel-good 'all of the above' energy policy. More wind turbines AND more drilling for oil in the arctic, too! And this is from President Obama, by far the best choice in the 2008 general election -- imagine where we'd be if he'd lost.
None of the measures proposed and talked about endlessly by the establishment would even dent the problem. And we can't even get the half-measures enacted, for the most part.
People will only take the problem seriously when it is too serious to be ignored. When Florida cities are underwater and there is a lack of food on the supermarket shelves. By then, it will be far too late.
The scientists working in this field know this reality. This system that they can't get to change, to stop the emissions, also is their source of funds. The government that gives subsidies to fossil fuel producers also funds their research. They are trying their best, and have been for a long time, to convince lawmakers to change, but it is pretty hopeless.
For most of them, I guess it's now an interesting intellectual puzzle, to forecast our doom.
James Hansen said that he expects civilization to collapse in about 30 years. (that was at least 10 years ago). Once industrial civilization ends, with an accompanying decline in population, our emission outputs will drop to pre-industrial levels. That seems like the only way humanity will 'handle' this problem. It's just a question of when, and how much the total damage will be to this beautiful blue planet.