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6. RE: AAA: Extreme temps significantly degrade *electric* car ranges
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:49 PM
Jun 2015

Should read:

AAA: Extreme temps significantly degrade *battery only* electric car ranges

Because Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electrics aren't similarly affected. That could be one reason the engineers at Toyota, Hyundai and Honda (who are much less emotionally involved in batteries than many posters here) have decided that Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electrics are better overall than Battery only electrics





Obviously, not every day is going to be at least 95 degrees or hotter or 20 degrees or colder but some fraction of the days in a year will meet these criteria. And on those days the range degradation could be very important.


The Leaf Owners have a lot to say about heat and lithium batteries

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewforum.php?f=9&sid=2defb8ad0adb1097ce5b07677248e557

http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewforum.php?f=31&sid=2defb8ad0adb1097ce5b07677248e557

The replacement cost of a Nissan Leaf battery is $5,000 + tax and installation. There goes the savings on gas.

Did you know that a 40 mile range(city) for a 2011 LEAF with 35,000 miles is within specifications, and is performing as it should?...

...AAA was willing and ready to total my LEAF based on this drastic performance issue, but they were told by Central Valley Nissan and the LEAF mechanic that my LEAF is performing within specifications for a 2011 LEAF with 35,000 miles. I find this hard to believe based on the EPA estimates of 106 city / 92 highway (I am curious if other LEAF owners know that when their vehicle is 3 years old and has 35,000 miles; they will only get 40 miles per charge)...

The LEAF after two to three years of capacity degradation is at best a 40 to 60 mile range vehicle, and in cold weather if you like a heated cabin is more like a 30 to 35 mile range vehicle.
http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=18194

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