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LouisvilleDem

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19. The irony here is amusing
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 02:35 PM
Jun 2015

The Myers-Briggs test is enormously popular among HR department personnel that are trying to find out if a potential candidate will be a good fit for an organization and to train managers on how to deal with the different "types" of people. However, the Myers-Briggs test is not so popular among those who are arguably the most qualified to judge its validity: experts in the field of psychology. So why are psychologists not huge fans of Myers-Briggs? Apparently there are many reasons, but the one that seems to come up most often is that it categorizes people using false dichotomies.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2013/mar/19/myers-briggs-test-unscientific

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die

The reality is that people are not either sensing or intuitive, but are distributed along a bell shaped curve--with most people falling in the middle, meaning they have tendencies from both descriptions.

So why do I find the OP ironic? It is ironic because the climate debate has also falsely labelled people into one of two groups. You have people that are "believers" in AGW, and people who are "deniers" of AGW. That's it. Unfortunately, like the Myers-Briggs test, this categorization fails to capture the fact that opinions on AGW fall along a wide spectrum with significant diversity. While the vast majority (97% or more) agree that the world is warming and human activity is largely to blame, there are significant differences in opinion beyond that. First, you have the question of magnitude. You can find scientists that believe we are in for less than 1 degree of warming over the next century, and some that believe we are in for 5, 6 or even more degrees of warming. Beyond that, you also have differences of opinion as to what effect the warming will have. A little warming is actually good for the planet, but where precisely warming flips to become "dangerous" is debatable, in no small part because the term dangerous is hard to define and depends enormously on where you live.

I've mentioned these things many times in this forum, with no luck. I'm tempted to suggest that perhaps it is because this forum is dominated by 'N' types that are too busy looking at the big picture to look at what the actual facts say, but then I'd be engaging in a bit of false dichotomy myself.

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For whatever their reasons, their brains are almost totally shutdown. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #1
N-type here. Maybe this will influence some... Ghost Dog Jun 2015 #2
"presenting them with data they can't process... Duppers Jun 2015 #3
This is then where everything breaks down The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #5
Science suggests the opposite OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #8
...when political passions come into play. Duppers Jun 2015 #18
Accountants, lawyers and Doctors are TRAINED to be that way happyslug Jun 2015 #21
there is another type -- those who deny professionally GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #4
two categories of psychological wiring PADemD Jun 2015 #6
I think “confirmation bias” goes a long way… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #7
Practices like "fake balance" play into peoples' psychological predispositions. GliderGuider Jun 2015 #10
You may misunderstand “S types” OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #11
How so? GliderGuider Jun 2015 #12
“S types … innate tendency to trust what's in front of them.” OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #13
ergo why I used the word "tendency". GliderGuider Jun 2015 #14
Right. My point here is that I don’t think it’s an S -vs- N thing at all OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #15
OK, and I think S/N plays a significant role. GliderGuider Jun 2015 #16
It may play a role OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #17
Deniers are 'practical' people pscot Jun 2015 #9
The irony here is amusing LouisvilleDem Jun 2015 #19
GG; I'm afraid I couldn't disagree more with your statement: "As far as I can tell, most scientists Bill USA Jun 2015 #20
I have no problem with your disagreement GliderGuider Jun 2015 #22
are you referring to Myers-Briggs Type Indicator? Bill USA Jun 2015 #23
I come from a hard-science family GliderGuider Jun 2015 #24
You need both LouisvilleDem Jul 2015 #25
never said there was no intuition involved in conduct of scientific discovery. Without that you'd Bill USA Jul 2015 #27
And I was just talking about the MBTI. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #28
I do not understand it.. its the one thing that drives me nutsy Peacetrain Jul 2015 #26
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