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Bill USA

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23. are you referring to Myers-Briggs Type Indicator?
Fri Jun 26, 2015, 03:13 PM
Jun 2015

I do know that science is based on observation of real world events and designing experiments to test hypotheses with real world events. Putting scientists in a category of people who " tend to trust conclusions arrived at through abstraction, analogy, metaphors and models" ignores the essential part of understanding the natural world which involves observing and measuring events in it. Without careful observation and measurement you can't have scientific progress.

I would say the following statements from our OP, nicely describe what scientists do when reaching for a better understanding of the natural world:

"I solve problems by working through facts until I understand the problem.
· I start with facts and then form a big picture.
· I trust experience first and trust words and symbols less."


naturally, this is not the entirety of what scientists do. There is the effort made to arrive at general laws, which starts with formulating an hypothosis, followed by testing the hypothesis. For complex systems models will be proposed as an hypothesis. If observed events do not confirm the hypothesis or model, then the hypothesis or model must be modified to better describe what actually happens and can be observed and measured.

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For whatever their reasons, their brains are almost totally shutdown. nt ladjf Jun 2015 #1
N-type here. Maybe this will influence some... Ghost Dog Jun 2015 #2
"presenting them with data they can't process... Duppers Jun 2015 #3
This is then where everything breaks down The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #5
Science suggests the opposite OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #8
...when political passions come into play. Duppers Jun 2015 #18
Accountants, lawyers and Doctors are TRAINED to be that way happyslug Jun 2015 #21
there is another type -- those who deny professionally GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #4
two categories of psychological wiring PADemD Jun 2015 #6
I think “confirmation bias” goes a long way… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #7
Practices like "fake balance" play into peoples' psychological predispositions. GliderGuider Jun 2015 #10
You may misunderstand “S types” OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #11
How so? GliderGuider Jun 2015 #12
“S types … innate tendency to trust what's in front of them.” OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #13
ergo why I used the word "tendency". GliderGuider Jun 2015 #14
Right. My point here is that I don’t think it’s an S -vs- N thing at all OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #15
OK, and I think S/N plays a significant role. GliderGuider Jun 2015 #16
It may play a role OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #17
Deniers are 'practical' people pscot Jun 2015 #9
The irony here is amusing LouisvilleDem Jun 2015 #19
GG; I'm afraid I couldn't disagree more with your statement: "As far as I can tell, most scientists Bill USA Jun 2015 #20
I have no problem with your disagreement GliderGuider Jun 2015 #22
are you referring to Myers-Briggs Type Indicator? Bill USA Jun 2015 #23
I come from a hard-science family GliderGuider Jun 2015 #24
You need both LouisvilleDem Jul 2015 #25
never said there was no intuition involved in conduct of scientific discovery. Without that you'd Bill USA Jul 2015 #27
And I was just talking about the MBTI. GliderGuider Jul 2015 #28
I do not understand it.. its the one thing that drives me nutsy Peacetrain Jul 2015 #26
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