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Bill USA

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Wed Jul 1, 2015, 06:03 PM Jul 2015

study: gasoline without ethanol increases wear & tear on engines - aromatics are the problem [View all]

[font size="+1"] “In ... Wichita [Kansas], the average E0 has 46% more benzene and toluene by volume than the same 87 octane blend with ethanol."[/font]



http://energy.agwired.com/2015/06/29/urban-air-initiative-ethanol-reduces-engine-wear/#more-84488


The Urban Air Initiative (UAI) has released a study that finds ethanol free gasoline blends actually increase the wear and tear on engines including hoses, seals and fuel tanks. In other words, the data supports ethanol blends lead to cleaner engines. The findings were presented at the semi-annual meeting of ASTM by Steve Vander Griend, technical director for UAI who also works for ICM.

The report demonstrated that high aromatic content of gasoline, including toxic aromatics like benzene and toluene, negatively impact engine parts. Vander Griend explained in his presentation that the toxic aromatics create a significant increase in the escape of harmful emissions that can have a devastating impact on public health as these are considered by the Environmental Protection Agency has known and suspected carcinogens.

“What we are seeing is that benzene and toluene are increasing permeation, which means increasing the amount of fuel vapors that seep from a vehicle. For anyone who has a garage at home and smells gasoline, vapors are escaping through the vehicles fuel system or small engine gas tank,” said Vander Griend.


Also during his presentation Vander Griend explained that extensive testing was conducted on fuel lines, gas containers, and plastic components. The materials were each soaked in straight gasoline (E0) and a 10 percent ethanol blend (E10) for extended periods of time. In every case, said Vander Griend, the ethanol free gasoline increased the damage to fuel lines, gas containers, and plastic components, while the materials soaked in E10 were impacted less.
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I find this hard to believe. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #1
not only problems with water, but edgineered Jul 2015 #2
NASCAR and INDY car teams don't seem to mind using ethanol (Indy cars 100%, NASCAR: E15) Bill USA Jul 2015 #4
Sure, they don't run old fuel. edgineered Jul 2015 #6
Ethanol does absorb water. something that you have to keep in mind if there are breaks between uses. Bill USA Jul 2015 #8
The maintenance done by professional racers is different than consumers OakCliffDem Jul 2015 #12
many tests have been done with E10. They always show a mileage decrement barely discernable ~ 2%. Bill USA Jul 2015 #3
We have a 2014 ford Focus madokie Jul 2015 #7
since 'we're' talking single cases here.. another study had two vehicles that did far Bill USA Jul 2015 #15
Yes I was using the 10% blend madokie Jul 2015 #19
Even at 52mpg, my motorcycle gains nothing from higher octane. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #9
no engine will gain the benefits of higher octane fuel without proper timing and compression ratio Bill USA Jul 2015 #14
I've tested this over many tanks. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #11
this is a sample size of "1". But, as I said, nothing it being done to take advantage of ethanol's Bill USA Jul 2015 #17
3 MIT scientists designed a Direct Injection ethanol turbocharged engine: 25% better fuel efficicien Bill USA Jul 2015 #18
Ethanol injected as a knock suppressant into a high compression engine may yield benefits. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #20
the high compression is achieved by use of turbo-charging not fixed by stroke. Bill USA Jul 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #22
in anticipation of possible comment re lobbying: National Corn growers: $370,000 in 2014, Oil Bill USA Jul 2015 #5
Yeah, I wonder who their funders are. nilram Jul 2015 #10
yeah, if in doubt that means it's definitely witchcraft. Best cover your eyes and not read it. Bill USA Jul 2015 #16
With fuel stabilizer added to every jug, my small engines do OK. appal_jack Jul 2015 #13
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