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NNadir

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12. Funny you should mention it...
Sun Aug 2, 2015, 03:25 PM
Aug 2015

...this is a five part series on Brave New Climate.

I would note that the first series begins with a rather long discussion of water.

In part 4 of the series on Brave New Climate, we'll look at the water requirements of the so called "renewable energy" industry in light of the fact that it is actually mine intensive.

There is, by the way, no intrinsic reason why waste heat couldn't be utilized for something other than dumping...but that said, arguably the only successful form of so called renewable energy - successful, in my book anyway, being defined as a form of energy that can produce 10 of the 560 exajoules humanity now consumes each year - is hydroelectricity.

Now.

I happen to be something called "an environmentalist" and as an environmentalist I am prone to ask how many major river systems, and the ecosystems that support them are left to totally and completely destroy?

Right now, if you look, you can learn that we are in the process of destroying the Amazon river system with dams, as well as finishing off the Ganges, having already trashed one of the world's largest wet lands on the same continent as the Amazon, the Pantanal, to grow "renewable" ethanol.

By the way, poisoning rivers is not, decidedly not, "protecting water." The solar industry is totally useless. It can't even generate enough electricity to run the servers dedicated to saying how wonderful it is. It doesn't generate two exajoules.

It is also a participant, a major participant, in the distribution of toxic metals. Right now, as I will report, with references, 10% of the Chinese rice crop is contaminated with cadmium. The profile of the gas fronting solar industry is exactly equivalent to the profile of the electronics industry, and, if one is interested in the environment, one can learn that one of the most intractable environmental and health problems on this planet - although it usually falls to poor people and not bourgeois "solar will save us" types to bear the cost - is electronic waste.

Have a nice evening.

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Excellent! GliderGuider Jul 2015 #1
Thanks for your kind words. Regrettably anything I might do to fight magical thinking... NNadir Jul 2015 #3
Jeb Bush assures me that some garage tinker is going to solve all this phantom power Jul 2015 #2
For now wind energy is simply digging the hole deeper. hunter Jul 2015 #4
^^^ That GliderGuider Jul 2015 #5
The main technical advantage - and it's huge - that fossil fuel have over so called... NNadir Aug 2015 #6
So, I guess you would disagree, then, with this from Nat'l Geographic~ RiverLover Aug 2015 #7
I certainly would. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #8
Thanks for the link. You just busted my beliefs, as I google EROI, so there's that. RiverLover Aug 2015 #9
Despite what some here suspect, I have nothing against renewable energy. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #10
Forgive me if I missed it but water about the water needed for cooling power plants? Finishline42 Aug 2015 #11
Funny you should mention it... NNadir Aug 2015 #12
What do you think of this author's take, basically a rebuttal of a German study...and it seems RiverLover Aug 2015 #13
I didn't catch this comment for a while... NNadir Aug 2015 #14
Thanks for your reply. But before I stick my head in my fossil fueled oven, (because if what you RiverLover Aug 2015 #16
nnadir has one objective on DU kristopher Aug 2015 #17
Well...if you have no hope because so called "renewable energy" is an expensive failure... NNadir Aug 2015 #18
Still making shit up, eh? kristopher Aug 2015 #19
I've provided lots of references from the primary scientific literature, for the... NNadir Aug 2015 #20
You embrace deception and thrive on decrepit logic kristopher Aug 2015 #21
Whatever. I think it's pretty clear what we think of one another. NNadir Aug 2015 #22
It isn't what people think of you that you should heed, it is what they think of your reasoning. kristopher Aug 2015 #23
Just as a broken clock is right twice a day, one of you sentences is actually right. NNadir Aug 2015 #24
Coal and nuclear, two sides of the same coin kristopher Aug 2015 #15
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