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kristopher

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34. Turning to biofuels is fine if they're available...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 05:00 PM
Oct 2015

...which was kind of the point behind my suggestion that you consider the potential of local farming as an energy platform.

On your other point, there can be many motives for adopting change but three probably dominate; status, environmental concerns, and financial benefit, with the most consistently dependable being money, of course. And while I might be wrong, I'm pretty sure that denizens of 'conservative communities' are among those motivated by positive economic considerations.

Some thoughts.
- This transition isn't going to happen all at once; it will take decades.

- Policies that shift where the end user's economic advantage lies will increasingly favor the transition to renewables even as they also continue to decline in costs.

- The role of energy efficiency in this matter can't be over-emphasized. Homes can be constructed which are so well insulate that they require no heat input other than that produced by the occupants in their normal daily activities. Even falling short of that we have "NetZero" homes that, when equipped with heat pumps and high-efficiency air exchange systems, are able to be easily heated and cooled with very little power.

- One policy prescription that Obama tried to install was an energy efficiency rating on all buildings. It would be similar to the EPA MPG rating on cars. It would help consumers at all levels make informed economic decisions about the actual aggregate value of a real estate purchase, lease, or rental. The ultimate effect, of course, would be to drive energy efficiency construction and retrofits of buildings so that sales would capture some of that value when properties are transferred. It didn't pass, but I expect to see it on the table repeatedly until it is enacted.


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Oil money owns the majority of our politicians newfie11 Sep 2015 #1
I really don't get that either. And WE are subsidizing oil with our representatives' blessings. RiverLover Sep 2015 #2
Thanks to the best efforts of shareholders. raouldukelives Sep 2015 #7
They think that when the shit awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #22
"Could a pipeline issue in Syria ...? " TBF Sep 2015 #3
And its dressed up as patriotism & "fighting them over there" & support our troops... RiverLover Sep 2015 #9
++++++++++++ newfie11 Sep 2015 #24
So true. (n/t) Nihil Sep 2015 #29
I wish we had electric buses so that I wouldn't have to breathe the diesel Eric J in MN Sep 2015 #4
Maybe your city should swap out the motors in the buses and install the "clean diesel" Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #5
;) RiverLover Sep 2015 #10
Are those the engines that passed the emissions test fasttense Sep 2015 #12
they are the ones programmed to have emissions systems off during normal driving and turn on when Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #14
It's amazing that a large and fairly popular corporation would think that is the way to do business? fasttense Sep 2015 #16
In my line of work that is all I see. Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #18
Wow, what has happened? Have corporations and big business always been scoundrels, liars and cheats? fasttense Sep 2015 #31
Corporations aren't psychopaths awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #23
I'm old enough to remember electric street cars newfie11 Sep 2015 #6
In Ohio, they use the "clean" burning natural gas in metro buses. RiverLover Sep 2015 #8
That's a picture of an oil spill in Bangladesh isn't it? oberliner Sep 2015 #13
That's what they linked in the article. RiverLover Sep 2015 #15
Accuracy is important oberliner Sep 2015 #17
My only point was that fracking gas RiverLover Sep 2015 #19
I definitely agree with that point oberliner Sep 2015 #20
Done. /nt RiverLover Sep 2015 #21
Now if more nations would simply follow their lead.... daleanime Sep 2015 #11
Can someone explain to me what they will use for space and water heating? (eom) StevieM Sep 2015 #25
Electricity is the preferred energy carrier kristopher Sep 2015 #26
Can you explain how biomass is used for home and water heating? Does it have to be done at the house StevieM Sep 2015 #27
Do you understand how a distributed energy system is different from a centralized system? kristopher Sep 2015 #28
Great explanation! RiverLover Sep 2015 #30
Thank you for your terrific explanation. Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but I was traveling. StevieM Oct 2015 #33
Turning to biofuels is fine if they're available... kristopher Oct 2015 #34
The Syrian Gas line dispute has been discussed before, in September 2014 happyslug Sep 2015 #32
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