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longship

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6. I don't give a fuck how it is generated, the 2nd law of thermodynamics still applies.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:39 PM
Oct 2015

The energy needed to free the hydrogen will always be more than the energy generated by consuming the resulting hydrogen. ALWAYS!

For the third fucking time in this thread I have to quote Arthur Eddington, who was dead on the subject here:

"If someone points out to you that your pet theory of the universe is in disagreement with Maxwell's equations-then so much the worse for Maxwell's equations. If it is found to be contradicted by observation-well, these experimentalists do bungle things sometimes. But if your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics I can give you no hope; there is nothing for it but to collapse in deepest humiliation."


Therefore, hydrogen is an energy storage medium, not an energy source. That is why hydrogen only works if one uses a clean source, like solar, wind or something that needs storage for down periods. It may also be useful for things like airliners which are unlikely to become fully solar powered but require an energy dense fuel.

But the whole argument for hydrogen fuel collapses if one is burning coal to generate energy to generate the hydrogen!

That is my point! And it is an important one. Again, Eddington and Thermo.

I appreciate your response, and you are correct. However, it does not take away from my points.

My best to you.

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