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9. fareed zakaria 2007

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Mon Nov 2, 2015, 06:40 PM

Nov 2015

http://www.newsweek.com/global-warming-get-used-it-104789

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The climate fact no one will admit: 2 �C warming is inevitable [View all] GliderGuider Nov 2015 OP

It's locked in... haikugal Nov 2015 #1

Two degrees is optimistic Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #2

In IPCC-speak, "There is at least a 66% chance that a 2C target is too optimistic." GliderGuider Nov 2015 #3

The science dfreakout was in the mid and late 80's Scootaloo Nov 2015 #6

I'd double that, based on paul ofnoclique Nov 2015 #20

Yes, and when that becomes widely acknowledged, I look forward to ... Jim__ Nov 2015 #4

Yep. GreenPartyVoter Nov 2015 #52

What do you mean �no one will admit� it? OKIsItJustMe Nov 2015 #5

Basically the IPCC, their emasculated scientists, the politicians and media of the world. GliderGuider Nov 2015 #10

The climate policy narrative for a dangerously warming world OKIsItJustMe Nov 2015 #11

Do you think that people are generally beginning to understand that >2C is now unavoidable? GliderGuider Nov 2015 #12

(Statistically speaking) �the people I know� make a poor sample OKIsItJustMe Nov 2015 #13

OK, how about this: Americans Largely Unconcerned About Climate Change, Survey Finds GliderGuider Nov 2015 #16

I think you've nailed it Boomer Nov 2015 #30

So did you. GliderGuider Nov 2015 #32

The actual report� OKIsItJustMe Nov 2015 #7

Aha, so *that* is the sound of inevitability phantom power Nov 2015 #8

fareed zakaria 2007 Mosby Nov 2015 #9

Ultimately this is a self-correcting problem pscot Nov 2015 #14

My standard answer to "What do we need to do to fix it?" is "Wait..." nt GliderGuider Nov 2015 #15

World can still stop globe from warming more than 2 C, experts tell UN mollyonthefeeds Nov 2015 #17

Considering China's been busted for consuming far more coal than they say they do . . hatrack Nov 2015 #23

Given China's coal consumption revelation, I think 2036 is optimistic NickB79 Nov 2015 #18

17%% more than they admitted... GliderGuider Nov 2015 #19

I don't think anyone actually knows LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #21

Lying or deluded - or they are a politician. GliderGuider Nov 2015 #22

So let's just keep on fumbling and lying and dissembling, right? hatrack Nov 2015 #24

Sorry if reality bothers you... LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #27

And we're already seeing massive, global climate impacts at "only" 0.8C so far NickB79 Nov 2015 #25

Here is the problem LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #26

The only problem is that you intentionally ignore what researchers are telling us NickB79 Nov 2015 #28

I'm not intentionally ignoring anything LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #40

No, you're really not are you? GliderGuider Nov 2015 #41

You misunderstand the nature of the dispute LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #42

Why not just accept that as someone else's opinion? GliderGuider Nov 2015 #43

What makes you think I don't? LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #45

Why do you care what other people think? GliderGuider Nov 2015 #46

You do care what other people think LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #48

Keep telling yourself that. GliderGuider Nov 2015 #49

How about the Arctic ice sheet death spiral we all get to observe? NickB79 Nov 2015 #29

Sadly, it's not enough for most people Boomer Nov 2015 #31

I have made myself literally sick to my very core over the state sue4e3 Nov 2015 #33

For your own sake, practice detachment Boomer Nov 2015 #34

Good luck we'll both need it, Sincerely sue4e3 Nov 2015 #35

I would like to strongly support Boomer's suggestion about detachment. GliderGuider Nov 2015 #36

Thank you , but no belief system is going to make watching my children die easier sue4e3 Nov 2015 #37

You're welcome. GliderGuider Nov 2015 #38

Lowest maximum ice extent on record... LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #39

What "most people" think is largely irrelevant given how little the average person knows of science NickB79 Nov 2015 #44

Question LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #47

What impacts just humans isn't all that matters (at least, it shouldn't be to any sane person) NickB79 Nov 2015 #50

Let me guess LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #51

Wow. No response to the science so you play the race, class and gender cards all at once? GliderGuider Nov 2015 #55

Yup LouisvilleDem Nov 2015 #56

Thank you! (n/t) Nihil Nov 2015 #54

this is completely confusing and deniers are taking advantage. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2015 #53