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Finishline42

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34. You've been doing this for 25 years and don't seem to understand the basics of the warranty?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:42 AM
Nov 2015

Something like 10 years ago I went to a seminar on solar energy locally. I have been a solar proponent since the mid-70's but this was the first time I understood the significance of the warranty period of solar panels. What at the time was 20 yrs and is now moving to 30 years. Basically they warranty the output at the stated time period - 80% of rated output for example. Since a solar panel has no moving parts this guarantee is not like that on the drivetrains of our cars which are under constant wear and tear during their use. It's a linear progression so that a panel with a guarantee of 80% at 25 years will still be producing 60% at 50 years. And that is the key. They don't just stop producing electricity if they have a valid warranty (implied quality manufacturing here). So when a system reaches the break even point where it has paid for itself there are still decades of free electricity to come.

Here's an example of what's happening in the industry now.

SunPower has recently updated their warranty (April 1st, 2013) and guarantees 95% of rated power for the first 5 years, declining by no more than 0.4% per year the following 20 years.[1] This means SunPower guarantees 87% of rated power output at 25 years – by far the best warranty on the market.
Yingli Solar`s Panda solar panels guarantees 82% of rated power output at 25 years.[2]

http://energyinformative.org/solar-panel-warranty-comparison/

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This should exacerbate the heavy metal pollution in China's crop land. NNadir Nov 2015 #1
No, it shouldn't - in fact, just the opposite kristopher Nov 2015 #3
Really? I would guess that the unenlightened really have no idea about Chinese mining... NNadir Nov 2015 #9
Interesting choice of arguments kristopher Nov 2015 #19
Wow! As always, we have another case of someone knowing nothing about nuclear energy... NNadir Nov 2015 #22
As usual you write a wall of nonsensical text to divert from not addressing the issue kristopher Nov 2015 #23
Um...um...um...yeah...yeah... NNadir Nov 2015 #37
This is what moving away from fossil fuels (and nuclear) looks like kristopher Nov 2015 #38
Just to clear things up, this plant WILL NOT produce and electricity. Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #11
Exactly dumbcat Nov 2015 #14
Are you saying you expect your panels to suddenly go kaput in 3 years? kristopher Nov 2015 #16
No, I don't dumbcat Nov 2015 #17
There's no problem with my reading comprehension kristopher Nov 2015 #18
And that is exactly the problem with your reading comprehension dumbcat Nov 2015 #20
I get the idea from the words you write. kristopher Nov 2015 #21
You've been doing this for 25 years and don't seem to understand the basics of the warranty? Finishline42 Nov 2015 #34
I stand corrected. I read that 10 yr figure a long time ago, Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #25
What a load of crap. kristopher Nov 2015 #28
So when somebody points out an error I made, I should do what? Stand my ground Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #30
You didn't make an "error", you made a deliberate false statement kristopher Nov 2015 #32
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Orrex Nov 2015 #36
I used to use a 10 year estimate dumbcat Nov 2015 #35
2 million homes each year. 50 years to minimally finish the US. Festivito Nov 2015 #2
More like 1,666,666 homes per year, every year the factory is operating kristopher Nov 2015 #4
The number of houses that 5GW/Year represents. eom Festivito Nov 2015 #5
You might want to learn what a "GW" is first. kristopher Nov 2015 #6
Oops. Monday. I was treating 5GW-year as power, not 5GW per year as energy. Festivito Nov 2015 #7
Yeah... Oooops... Riiiiiiiiight.... More like 1.67 million homes per year. kristopher Nov 2015 #8
{Sigh} This is really sad dumbcat Nov 2015 #10
They understand. kristopher Nov 2015 #12
What you just said dumbcat Nov 2015 #13
It follows from the words you typed. kristopher Nov 2015 #15
The answer is simple. Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #24
You are right, it is simple kristopher Nov 2015 #26
The truth will set you free... Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #27
I don't have a problem dealing with the truth kristopher Nov 2015 #29
There comes a time in a discussion when you realize that Binkie The Clown Nov 2015 #31
Playing the innocent lamb after trying to pass off RW falsehoods on a liberal forum? kristopher Nov 2015 #33
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