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LouisvilleDem

(303 posts)
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:55 PM Dec 2015

Support for Nuclear == Denial [View all]

Apparently support for nuclear is now equivalent to denying climate change:

After the signing of a historic climate pact in Paris, we might now hope that the merchants of doubt – who for two decades have denied the science and dismissed the threat – are officially irrelevant.

But not so fast. There is also a new, strange form of denial that has appeared on the landscape of late, one that says that renewable sources can’t meet our energy needs.

Oddly, some of these voices include climate scientists, who insist that we must now turn to wholesale expansion of nuclear power. Just this past week, as negotiators were closing in on the Paris agreement, four climate scientists held an off-site session insisting that the only way we can solve the coupled climate/energy problem is with a massive and immediate expansion of nuclear power. More than that, they are blaming environmentalists, suggesting that the opposition to nuclear power stands between all of us and a two-degree world


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/16/new-form-climate-denialism-dont-celebrate-yet-cop-21

Being one of the four climate scientists mentioned, I guess this means Jim Hansen is a denier. I think Naomi Oreskes has officially jumped the shark.

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Support for Nuclear == Denial [View all] LouisvilleDem Dec 2015 OP
I've had this argument so many times, I needed this article. Thank you! Gregorian Dec 2015 #1
It's evidence of the formation of camps in the environmental movement GliderGuider Dec 2015 #2
Nuclear isn't as carbon-free as we would like AtheistCrusader Dec 2015 #3
You could try opening a scientific paper on the subject of LCA... NNadir Dec 2015 #6
Nicely stated. eom whitefordmd Dec 2015 #7
I think the enemy is a delusional regulatory environment cprise Dec 2015 #4
It is denial - nuclear isn't needed at all. bananas Dec 2015 #5
What if you are wrong? LouisvilleDem Dec 2015 #8
Your beliefs are false. kristopher Dec 2015 #9
Your reasoning suffers severe deficiencies LouisvilleDem Jan 2016 #10
Nope. kristopher Jan 2016 #11
Study != Proof LouisvilleDem Jan 2016 #12
No, he can't. kristopher Jan 2016 #13
You don't get it LouisvilleDem Jan 2016 #14
No, it isn't different. kristopher Jan 2016 #15
Response LouisvilleDem Jan 2016 #16
And that returns us to the "denier" label kristopher Jan 2016 #18
Economics of nuclear power and climate change mitigation policies OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #17
What - specifically - is your point? kristopher Jan 2016 #19
You asked for science OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #20
And how do you interpret that statement... kristopher Jan 2016 #21
Well, interpreting the statement would be in the context in which was written. OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #22
"those probably will not be renewable...." kristopher Jan 2016 #23
As you can see, renewables do not play much of a role OKIsItJustMe Jan 2016 #24
So you insist on ignoring real world events, eh? kristopher Jan 2016 #25
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