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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
18. You routinely and deliberately present data in a way you know is false. **
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

That says everything anyone needs to know about the ethical world you occupy.

Let me repeat - you routinely and deliberately present data in a way you know is false. **

Why do you do it?

No one can speak to the lack of barriers that allows your behavior, but we know without doubt that the trigger isn't concern about the issues as you claim. For, if your concern were genuine you would be motivated to follow a factually sound path of action. Instead, you pursue an obsession with nuclear power for its own sake.



**Nnads on Vestas

Vestas calls itself in its company reports, the Vestas OIL, GAS and WIND company.

Posted by NNadir
on Sat Oct-16-10 09:29 PM

Vestas, OIL, GAS and wind company.

They know what they are, even if mathematically illiterate purveyors of self delusion and indifference don't.

It's notable that this piece of shit dangerous fossil fuel company suffered huge losses in the middle of the decade for being required to meet five year warranties on their worthless hunks of metal.

Their "solution" to this problem with their reliability did not lead them to improve the crappy gearboxes on their subsidized garbage, but rather to reduce the warranty period from five years to two years.

It is interesting to note that the most transparently dishonest people are the first to accuse others of dishonesty.

Have a nice day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=261737&mesg_id=262014


They were never in fossil fuel, they started in engineering
Posted by muriel_volestrangler
on Sun Oct-17-10 06:17 AM

NNadir was talking a load of complete bollocks about 'oil and gas'.

# 1898 - Vestas founded by H.S. Hansen, a blacksmith, in the small town of Lem in Denmark. He and his son, Peder Hansen, manufactured steel windows for industrial buildings.
# 1945 - Peder Hansen established the company VEstjyskSTålteknik A/S, whose name was shortened to Vestas. The new company, which initially made household appliances, started to produce agricultural equipment.
# 1970s - During the second oil crisis, Vestas began to examine the potential of the wind turbine as an alternative source of clean energy.
# 1979 - Vestas delivered the first wind turbines. The industry experienced a genuine boom at the start of the 1980s, but in 1986 Vestas was forced to suspend payments because the market in the United States was destroyed due to the expiration of a special tax legislation that provided advantageous conditions for the establishment of wind turbines.

http://www.vestas.com/en/about-vestas/profile/vestas-brief-history.aspx

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x261737#262053


No, you are very, very wrong; they have NEVER been a fossil fuel company
Posted by muriel_volestrangler on Sun Oct-17-10 06:14 AM

Vestas is a wind turbine company. It does not sell oil or gas. It never has. What it says, in one part of its website, is "Wind, Oil and Gas is Vestas’ vision, which expresses the ambition of making wind an energy source on a par with fossil fuels." So, they want to be as big as the huge oil and gas companies that supply so much of the world's energy. That's where the 'oil and gas' phrase comes from.

I realise that you're hoping no-one will check to see what your link says, because you're counting on them thinking "yet another boring piece of crap from NNadir, why bother looking?", but you are being highly misleading.

It is not a fossil fuel company. Your claim is incorrect, wrong and misleading. You have the gall to accuse others of dishonesty in the same post. You have no shame.


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I want nice things!!! tazkcmo Feb 2016 #1
It's a proven loser. Why are they doing it? Gregorian Feb 2016 #2
And you know that as fact how? nt kristopher Feb 2016 #3
Here's one reputable analysis. Gregorian Feb 2016 #5
Does that evaluate the technology that the French seem to be using? kristopher Feb 2016 #6
If you look at the video, you'll see it's simply the configuration of having them flat on the ground Gregorian Feb 2016 #7
I don't think you have nearly enough information to draw that conclusion. kristopher Feb 2016 #8
Watch the video. It's academic. Gregorian Feb 2016 #9
Repeat post 8 kristopher Feb 2016 #10
Proven? If it brand new technology - not the old failed stuff, I would not think it is a proven patricia92243 Feb 2016 #4
In ten years, we'll be seeing papers in all of the primary scientific literature about... NNadir Feb 2016 #11
Blah blah, nuclear great blah blah, love nuclear blah hate renewable blah.... kristopher Feb 2016 #12
Like a broken clock, you are again, correct, albeit rarely. NNadir Feb 2016 #13
Riiiiigggghhht... kristopher Feb 2016 #14
Were one to engage in the reading of science books as opposed to watching fantasies... NNadir Feb 2016 #15
Did you just use the word "ethical"? kristopher Feb 2016 #16
Um...um...yes I did. I would note that my process of understanding the word... NNadir Feb 2016 #17
You routinely and deliberately present data in a way you know is false. ** kristopher Feb 2016 #18
Well...well...well... NNadir Feb 2016 #19
You routinely and deliberately present data in a way you know is false. ** kristopher Feb 2016 #20
This is great, a good start KelleyKramer Feb 2016 #21
Actually we are installing renewables at a historically breakneck pace. kristopher Feb 2016 #22
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