Amazing video of Jewish leaders meeting with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in NYC

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34. Yes, I'm aware of the history (of the zionist project) back to 1850 or so.

Neither side is going to lay it all out for you, so you have to go find it, but it's not hard to find. The period around WWI is very interesting, has the real roots of the current mess, prior to that it was more nebulous, talk of other places, nobody with power that interested. Weizmann had a huge impact, looking back.

The polarization you mention is central to my interest, since I figure it will stay a mess while it stays polarized, and the more polarized it gets, the messier it's going to get too.

There are the "Jews == Israel" people, the "Israel is a negative-descriptor-of-choice" people, and the vast majority of diaspora Jews who have abstract good feelings about Israel, give money, maybe visit, but don't really spend much time on it.

And then there is the quite large portion of the human race that sees the whole thing as an annoyance about which they know little and care less.