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Scootaloo

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36. And why did they reject such?

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Wed Apr 15, 2015, 09:36 PM

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New Curriculum Will Teach Arab Israeli Children About Suffering of Jews During Holocaust [View all] shira Apr 2015 OP

Will they be teaching these children about the Nakba, aka the Palestinian ethnic cleansing, as well? R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #1

I was going to ask the same thing. procon Apr 2015 #2

That's already taught in Israeli Arab schools. n/t shira Apr 2015 #3

Just not to all schools... R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #4

Please explain to all DU'ers here what the Nakba is in 2-3 sentences. n/t shira Apr 2015 #5

The ethnic cleansing of 700,000 Arabs from Palestine by Jewish militia then Israeli military Scootaloo Apr 2015 #6

And why is it a "celebration"? krishnarama Apr 2015 #19

The word you are looking for is "memoralization," not "celebration" Scootaloo Apr 2015 #24

Ugh, another one... Little Tich Apr 2015 #38

It's funny you say you're against revisionist history, but that's pretty much.... shira Apr 2015 #43

Please note that I was quoting an article from a respected french magazine, Little Tich Apr 2015 #46

Again, you say I'm dishonest. How's about you back that up? shira Apr 2015 #47

Nobody really wants to waste that much time with you on that. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #56

What u really mean is that when anti-Israel revisionists are proven wrong... shira Apr 2015 #59

The reason I simply bail is because I consider the refutal already made. Little Tich Apr 2015 #66

When u can justify your view w/ facts & logic, you'll have something... shira Apr 2015 #67

But is it ever possible to prove you wrong? Little Tich Apr 2015 #69

Of course! And I don't mind admitting I'm wrong when I am... shira Apr 2015 #70

Nobody wants to waste that kind of time on you. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #73

What I mean is what I write. Nobody really wants to waste time on you. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #72

That's it? shira Apr 2015 #21

Yes, that's what the Nakba was. Scootaloo Apr 2015 #23

So a war that Palestinians & neighboring Arab states started against the Jews.... shira Apr 2015 #28

And how did they start that war, Shira? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #31

By rejecting the Partition Plan that the Jews accepted. They declared war on the Jews... shira Apr 2015 #32

And why did they reject it, Shira? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #33

Irrelevant. aranthus Apr 2015 #35

And why did they reject such? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #36

Mostly Arab/Muslim chauvinism and antisemitism. aranthus Apr 2015 #41

Mostly? What was the rest, then? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #53

I already listed them. Read the full post. n/t aranthus Apr 2015 #54

I did. You just added detail to the two concepts. Where was this Juewish State to be, map-wise? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #55

Somewhere in Western Palestine. aranthus Apr 2015 #74

And who would rule in this state? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #77

Politicians. aranthus Apr 2015 #80

How would the majority have been achieved? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #81

Legal immigration. n/t aranthus Apr 2015 #82

so there would not be a majority prior to the creation of the state? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #83

There was a majority prior to the creastion of the state. n/t aranthus Apr 2015 #84

How do you have legal immigration without a state to set immigration policy? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #87

You don't need to be a state. You need to have a sovereign. aranthus Apr 2015 #88

And what grants the British such authority? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #89

Conquest from the Turks. n/t aranthus Apr 2015 #90

aranthus is right, it's irrelevant. Your attempt to justify.... shira Apr 2015 #44

I'm asking about your perspective on the events around the nakba, shira Scootaloo Apr 2015 #52

Please look at my post #38. n/t Little Tich Apr 2015 #39

700,000 forced out. 6 million murdered. No, they aren't comparable. cali Apr 2015 #71

As acts of purges of humanity, they are Scootaloo Apr 2015 #76

Scoot did a pretty good job of it, but here's a snippit from the Wik for interested DUers. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #8

Are the two comparable in your mind? nt FBaggins Apr 2015 #18

Two peoples. Two tragedies. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #20

Who says it's "at the expense of the other" ? FBaggins Apr 2015 #22

It should be taught in all Israeli schools. Teaching it the Nakba in schools cali Apr 2015 #78

I'm not the one saying that they are comparable FBaggins Apr 2015 #79

interesting a couple of things -why are these courses being taught in Arabic? azurnoir Apr 2015 #7

Clear to everyone that you have never actually been there, King_David Apr 2015 #9

I asked a question do you have an actual answer? azurnoir Apr 2015 #10

Arabic is one of the official languages of Israel and the one most commonly spoken among Israeli Arabs. oberliner Apr 2015 #11

The Holocaust is indeed being taught in UNRWA schools azurnoir Apr 2015 #12

No, sadly it is not oberliner Apr 2015 #13

Did you add �UNRWA_Holocaust_dispute yourself to make it appear to be the same link as mine? azurnoir Apr 2015 #15

You should really edit your link to be accurate. Some might come to believe that you are acting R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2015 #16

What is the evidence for this? Got any news articles reporting this UN success story? n/t shira Apr 2015 #25

Lol nope wiki reported it got any news under 3 or 4 years old? :) azurnoir Apr 2015 #27

They're reporting the hearsay of one person. That's not evidence of a UN success story.... shira Apr 2015 #30

when the "hearsay" comes from the head of UNRWA in Gaza it's more than hearsay azurnoir Apr 2015 #42

Still, no evidence. Do u believe everything John Ging says? n/t shira Apr 2015 #45

So the head of UNRWA in Gaza isn't evidence-why all the attention on Gaza nothing on the WB? BTW azurnoir Apr 2015 #48

You're still going by what Ging said years ago. Where do u see Hamas protesting.... shira Apr 2015 #50

Google is my friend PS why do you keep avoiding any comment on the West Bank? azurnoir Apr 2015 #51

You just proved Ging lied in 2009. He said in 2009 it was being taught... shira Apr 2015 #58

No you just proved either 1 you didn't read either or 2 you depend on no one else reading them azurnoir Apr 2015 #60

Let me help u understand what u just quoted, because it makes Ging a liar shira Apr 2015 #62

In 2009 Holocaust was mentioned in a larger human rights context azurnoir Apr 2015 #64

No, that's bullshit too. Here's wiki on UNRWA's response... shira Apr 2015 #68

It was yanked from a Chinese publication prior to Gings comment don't you read the citations? azurnoir Apr 2015 #75

You were given references before & after Ging's comments. He lied. n/t shira Apr 2015 #85

Again why no mention of this same thing in the West Bank-could seem as if you avoid this, why? azurnoir Apr 2015 #61

Fine. It's not happening in the WB either. n/t shira Apr 2015 #63

are we just to take your word for it like we were supposed to about the links you were shown? azurnoir Apr 2015 #65

See #85. Also note that Ging never compared Gaza to the W.Bank..... shira Apr 2015 #86

The passage indicates that indeed Holocaust studies were being taught azurnoir Apr 2015 #91

By 1 or 2 teachers willing to go on a trip to the Holocaust museum? shira Apr 2015 #92

Why do Arab Israelis and Jewish Israelis go to different schools? Mosby Apr 2015 #14

Because that is how the Israel Ministry of education works, Mosby Scootaloo Apr 2015 #26

hopefully this will change someday Mosby Apr 2015 #29

Good idea. Could you give some examples of Israeli culture they can focus on and build from? Scootaloo Apr 2015 #34

I agree. No more of that Jewish State BS. Little Tich Apr 2015 #40

That's not what I meant with my comment Mosby Apr 2015 #49

Sorry. I thought you meant Arab, Jewish and Israeli culture respectively. n/t Little Tich Apr 2015 #57

and why do the Arab students have to be segregated from the Jewish students? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author FBaggins Apr 2015 #17