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Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
Fri May 18, 2012, 10:03 PM May 2012

Thank you, Russian immigrant to Israel, for Nakba Day (Bradley Burston) [View all]

Alex Miller will go down in history as the Israeli politician who tried his damnedest to erase the memory of the Nakba - and, in doing so, made the Nakba an indelible part of our lives.

It is customary for our people to honor fast days, memorial days and festivals by studying commentaries on their origins, the symbols and rituals of their observance, and the ways in which they connect to our own lives.

Therefore, this week, to mark Nakba Day, I've been learning about the events of 1948, and the heritage and the sorrows of Palestinians – thanks in no small part to a Russian Jewish immigrant to Israel, Alex Miller.

If for nothing else, Miller will go down in history as the Israeli who tried his damnedest to erase the memory of the Nakba - and in so doing, more than anyone, made the Nakba an indelible part of our lives.

In 2009, Miller introduced a Knesset bill which would have made taking part in a Nakba Day event punishable by arrest and up to three years in prison. The prison sentence was later struck from the bill in order to pave way for its becoming law in 2011.

But Miller's Nakba Law still casts a shadow over events marking the day. Legal experts have noted that if schools or other state-supported institutions merely read the names of Palestinians killed or forced to leave their homes in 1948, they could be fined at the discretion of the Finance Minister.

Is it relevant that Miller, a resident of the settlement city of Ariel and a senior member of Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu party, was born and raised in Leonid Brezhnev's Moscow?

http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/thank-you-russian-immigrant-to-israel-for-nakba-day.premium-1.430577?trailingPath=2.169%2C2.240%2C2.243%2C


btw, I just noticed you have to pay to subscribe to Ha'aretz to read full articles. Is there some way around it other than googling for the article title and hope it's been posted somewhere else?
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You don't have to pay to read full articles at Ha'aretz oberliner May 2012 #1
Thanks. I must have been trying to read one that was part of their premium content... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #2
No problem oberliner May 2012 #39
Thanks and it's true in attempting to outlaw the Nakba azurnoir May 2012 #3
There's simply no excuse in outlawing Nakba Day Ken Burch May 2012 #4
Isn't Nakba Day a day of mourning for the failure of Israel's neighbors... shira May 2012 #5
As usual, yr wrong. The Nakba was the dispossession of around 700,000 Palestinians... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #6
So you know that if no war on the Jews was declared in 1948... shira May 2012 #7
The Zionist side had been discussing forcible transfer for years. Ken Burch May 2012 #9
Very unlikely for many reasons. One being that Ben Gurion wouldn't do it. n/t shira May 2012 #10
Ben-Gurion on transfer: Ken Burch May 2012 #12
Context. Where is it? shira May 2012 #15
It was from testimony to the Peel Commission. Ken Burch May 2012 #22
Still no context, and yes it matters. Here's Benny Morris... shira May 2012 #23
why no citation? n/t azurnoir May 2012 #24
Sorry...here's three sources for the second quote: Ken Burch May 2012 #28
I don't think you understand what a source is oberliner May 2012 #37
Do you even know what the Peel Commission is? oberliner May 2012 #40
I stand corrected on the date. Ken Burch May 2012 #46
How confident are you of the validity of that quote? oberliner May 2012 #16
I believe it came from here azurnoir May 2012 #25
I do believe he said no such thing and in fact said something else entirely oberliner May 2012 #26
I'll have to rememberthis the n ext time you attempt to delegitimize wiki however azurnoir May 2012 #27
and the first quote by Ben-Gurion was rather a non-sequator azurnoir May 2012 #35
See post #28 Ken Burch May 2012 #29
There are not multiple sources for the quote oberliner May 2012 #36
ah you mean the wiki quotes from 1919 and 1920 ? azurnoir May 2012 #38
Is there something you didn't understand about the information I gave you? Violet_Crumble May 2012 #17
You say you know what 1948 was about. Hmm.... shira May 2012 #19
Yeah, their land.... Violet_Crumble May 2012 #20
No land was being taken prior to the wars of 1948.... shira May 2012 #21
But they did not have the right Ken Burch May 2012 #30
Do you hear yourself? They did not have the right.... shira May 2012 #31
The Palestinians weren't against Jews living in Palestine Ken Burch May 2012 #32
It wasn't up to them. The Turks allowed Jews to live throughout the mideast.... shira May 2012 #42
The issue with Jerusalem is EAST Jerusalem, not ALL of Jerusalem Ken Burch May 2012 #33
Both Hamas and the PA are calling for all Jerusalem.... shira May 2012 #43
No, it isn't, and yes, you're wrong. Ken Burch May 2012 #8
It's only about being dispossessed? shira May 2012 #11
If they had been allowed to return, without retribution, after the war was over Ken Burch May 2012 #13
Oh stop it... shira May 2012 #14
Of course I knew there were two wars Ken Burch May 2012 #34
Yes, and the first was a civil war. And you cannot understand why Israel was reluctant... shira May 2012 #41
They could at least have let the oldest come back. Ken Burch May 2012 #44
Ken, a few posts back you said that Israel should have let all refugees back in.... shira May 2012 #45
Very interesting article LeftishBrit May 2012 #18
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