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In reply to the discussion: Obama’s role model to journalists — Dorothy Thompson — turned against Zionism and was silenced [View all]R. Daneel Olivaw
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Birth of the nationalist feeling
Under the Ottomans, Palestine's Arab population mostly saw themselves as Ottoman subjects. Kimmerling and Migdal consider the revolt in 1834 of the Arabs in Palestine as the first formative event of the Palestinian people. In the 1830s, Palestine was occupied by the Egyptian vassal of the Ottomans, Muhammad Ali and his son Ibrahim Pasha. The revolt was precipitated by popular resistance against heavy demands for conscripts. Peasants were well aware that conscription was nothing less than a death sentence. Starting in May 1834, the rebels took many cities, among them Jerusalem, Hebron and Nablus. In response, Ibrahim Pasha sent in his army, finally defeating the last rebels on 4 August in Hebron.[2] Nevertheless, the Arabs in Palestine remained part of a Pan-Islamist or Pan-Arab national movement.[3]
In 1882 the population numbered approximately 320,000 people, 25,000 of whom were Jewish.[4] Many of these were Arab Jews and in the narrative works of Arabs in Palestine in the late Ottoman period - as evidenced in the autobiographies and diaries of Khalil Sakakini and Wasif Jawhariyyeh - "native" Jews were often referred to as abnaa al-balad (sons of the country), 'compatriots', or Yahud awlad Arab ("Jews, sons of Arabs" .[5]
At the beginning of the 20th century, a "local and specific Palestinian patriotism" emerged. The Palestinian identity grew progressively. In 1911, a newspaper named Filastin was published in Jaffa and the first Palestinian nationalist organisations appeared at the end of the World War I[6] Two political factions emerged. al-Muntada al-Adabi, dominated by the Nashashibi family, militated for the promotion of the Arab language and culture, for the defense of Islamic values and for an independent Syria and Palestine. In Damascus, al-Nadi al-Arabi, dominated by the Husayni family, defended the same values.[7]
When the First Palestinian Congress of February 1919 issued its anti-Zionist manifesto rejecting Zionist immigration, it extended a welcome to those Jews "among us who have been Arabicized, who have been living in our province since before the war; they are as we are, and their loyalties are our own.".[5]
According to Benny Morris, Palestinian Arab nationalism as a distinct movement appeared between April and July 1920,[7] after the Nebi Musa riots, the San Remo conference and the failure of Faisal to establish the Kingdom of Greater Syria.[8][9]
Birth of the nationalist feeling
Under the Ottomans, Palestine's Arab population mostly saw themselves as Ottoman subjects. Kimmerling and Migdal consider the revolt in 1834 of the Arabs in Palestine as the first formative event of the Palestinian people. In the 1830s, Palestine was occupied by the Egyptian vassal of the Ottomans, Muhammad Ali and his son Ibrahim Pasha. The revolt was precipitated by popular resistance against heavy demands for conscripts. Peasants were well aware that conscription was nothing less than a death sentence. Starting in May 1834, the rebels took many cities, among them Jerusalem, Hebron and Nablus. In response, Ibrahim Pasha sent in his army, finally defeating the last rebels on 4 August in Hebron.[2] Nevertheless, the Arabs in Palestine remained part of a Pan-Islamist or Pan-Arab national movement.[3]
In 1882 the population numbered approximately 320,000 people, 25,000 of whom were Jewish.[4] Many of these were Arab Jews and in the narrative works of Arabs in Palestine in the late Ottoman period - as evidenced in the autobiographies and diaries of Khalil Sakakini and Wasif Jawhariyyeh - "native" Jews were often referred to as abnaa al-balad (sons of the country), 'compatriots', or Yahud awlad Arab ("Jews, sons of Arabs" .[5]
At the beginning of the 20th century, a "local and specific Palestinian patriotism" emerged. The Palestinian identity grew progressively. In 1911, a newspaper named Filastin was published in Jaffa and the first Palestinian nationalist organisations appeared at the end of the World War I[6] Two political factions emerged. al-Muntada al-Adabi, dominated by the Nashashibi family, militated for the promotion of the Arab language and culture, for the defense of Islamic values and for an independent Syria and Palestine. In Damascus, al-Nadi al-Arabi, dominated by the Husayni family, defended the same values.[7]
When the First Palestinian Congress of February 1919 issued its anti-Zionist manifesto rejecting Zionist immigration, it extended a welcome to those Jews "among us who have been Arabicized, who have been living in our province since before the war; they are as we are, and their loyalties are our own.".[5]
According to Benny Morris, Palestinian Arab nationalism as a distinct movement appeared between April and July 1920,[7] after the Nebi Musa riots, the San Remo conference and the failure of Faisal to establish the Kingdom of Greater Syria.[8][9]
They were, in fact, a people Shira, but there will always be the coldly calculating and ignorant bigots that will deny them their existence with bigoted and false history.
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Obama’s role model to journalists — Dorothy Thompson — turned against Zionism and was silenced [View all]
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
OP
When you're ready to justify or prove that you're correct, I'm sure you'll let me know.
shira
Apr 2015
#78
Try reading this very, very slowly. If necessary read it a few more times.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#75
Please stop lying about what I have written, shira. It makes you appear as you really are.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#90
I have no denials that you are completely disingenuous when it comes to the factual.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#96
So why not answer the question with either a Yes or No? What do u fear by doing so? n/t
shira
Apr 2015
#103
cite the international law that says WB settlements are legal because it's the Jewish homeland
azurnoir
Apr 2015
#65
go tell Obama in 1920 the British promised land that wasn't theirs sorry the partition plan
azurnoir
Apr 2015
#67
In 2011, the USA vetoed a UN resolution that would declare settlements as illegal
shira
Apr 2015
#69
Name one who has promoted San Remo for your purposes, Kerry called them illegitmate
azurnoir
Apr 2015
#70
So why post on a Democratic Forum if you think so little about every elected Democrat? n/t
shira
Apr 2015
#88
Shira is prolly too busy cutting fabrications from whole cloth as to have time to reply to you.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#95
Dorothy Thompson was adamantly anti-Nazi she was one of the earliest critics of the Nazi party
azurnoir
Apr 2015
#6
No, I think you should. She bashed Jews (not Israeli Jews) in the previous quote provided....
shira
Apr 2015
#15
so you accuse the Democratic POTUS of endorsing an antisemite? -well okay them
azurnoir
Apr 2015
#18
What you mean is for me to please stop pointing out falsehoods in your arguments...
shira
Apr 2015
#91
"If Jews weren't slaughtered and expelled from Israel over the past 2000 years, they'd have been...
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#115
Huh? The Palestinians could've agreed to the 1937 Peel Plan or 1947 Partition Plan.
shira
Apr 2015
#45
Logic escapes the colonist mind, shira; especially when refering to the colonized.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#97
Who cares what she thought about Israel/Zionism? She said some very hateful things....
shira
Apr 2015
#44
I don't believe that I would ever quote you on anything, my unremarkable friend, but if it makes
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#111
I think you could benefit from a Logic 101 course. No, I mean really,really benefit....
shira
May 2015
#127
When you choose the quote you choose the person behind it as well: part and parcel.*
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#93
Well, shira, if you are going to try and defend Bush II on things that's your business...
R. Daneel Olivaw
Apr 2015
#99