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azurnoir

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23. Moshe Dayan made the agreement to prevent the conflict from becoming a religious war-it seems the
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 02:26 PM
Sep 2015

current government has abandoned that notion

Dayan’s most significant act on the Temple Mount, which sparked controversy over the years and was widely criticized, was to forbid Jewish prayer and worship there, unlike the arrangements that emerged at the Machpelah Cave in Hebron where there is also a functioning mosque.(7) Dayan decided to leave the mount and its management in the hands of the Muslim Wakf, while at the same time insisting that Jews would be able to visit it (but not pray at it!) without restriction. Dayan thought, and years later even committed the thought to writing, that since for Muslims the mount is a “Muslim prayer mosque” while for Jews it is no more than “a historical site of commemoration of the past…one should not hinder the Arabs from behaving there as they now do.”(8) The Israeli defense minister believed that Islam must be allowed to express its religious sovereignty – as opposed to national sovereignty – over the mount; that the Arab-Israeli conflict must be kept on the territorial-national level; and that the potential for a conflict between the Jewish religion and the Muslim religion must be removed. In granting Jews the right to visit the mount, Dayan sought to placate the Jewish demands for worship and sovereignty there. In giving religious sovereignty over the mount to the Muslims, he believed he was defusing the site as a center of Palestinian nationalism.(9) - See more at: http://jcpa.org/al-aksa-is-in-danger-libel-temple-mount/#sthash.l1bZdFSx.dpuf

You Deserve to be Offended [View all] Mosby Sep 2015 OP
Good reality check. 6chars Sep 2015 #1
Israel, and it's rampant settler colonist theocrats need to stop terrorizing the Palestinians R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #2
"The grounds of a mosque" oberliner Sep 2015 #5
The poster thinks if he repeats that ridiculousness often enough he will convince himself it's true King_David Sep 2015 #7
Literally an attempt to erase Judaism from Jerusalem oberliner Sep 2015 #10
Little strange seeing such religious fervor posted here at DU King_David Sep 2015 #12
What's not strange, dave, is how some view the world R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #15
It's pretty inconcievable that some want to ignore R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #13
I agree oberliner Sep 2015 #14
The facts are offensive to you? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #16
No, facts are not offensive to me oberliner Sep 2015 #17
Apparently they are. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #18
Nothing that you have written is true oberliner Sep 2015 #19
It's a little more than just offensive King_David Sep 2015 #20
ANTI-SEMITISM!!!!!! R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #49
Actually, everything I have written is accurate. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #21
Nothing you wrote has anything to do with prayer Mosby Sep 2015 #24
Oh, so you want to pray, mos? R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #25
I want to pray at the kotel and on the temple mount Mosby Sep 2015 #28
Unbelievable that someone thinks they have the gravitas to tell Jews or Muslims where they may King_David Sep 2015 #36
Unbelievable that someboy thinks that they have the stones to tell others where they can push their R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #50
I'm not sure WTF he would think it's any of his business... King_David Sep 2015 #43
Well, king, apparently Yehuda Glick believes the same thing. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #51
"I want to pray at the kotel and on the temple mount." So does Yehuda Glick. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #46
Yehuda Glick doesn't have a problem w/ Muslims & Christians praying @ the Kotel. shira Nov 2015 #58
My post is a month old. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #60
Who's more tolerant of the other? You or Glick? n/t shira Nov 2015 #62
Who is more tolerant of a self-proclaimed third temple R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #64
That's exactly it , King_David Sep 2015 #30
" Nothing " ...!!!!! ....?????? Israeli Sep 2015 #56
Moshe Dayan made the agreement to prevent the conflict from becoming a religious war-it seems the azurnoir Sep 2015 #23
TY. But they just can't leave it alone. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #26
IMO this is part of what could be called an incremental takeover azurnoir Sep 2015 #32
Wanting to pray is a "takeover"? Mosby Sep 2015 #39
There's no doubt in my mind that that is what is happening. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #47
Fascinating that you are using the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs as your source oberliner Sep 2015 #41
How are non-Israeli Jews or Christians terrorizing Palestinians by being at the Mount? n/t shira Nov 2015 #59
Must be a slow news day for you. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #61
So they're not terrorizing anyone. Why did you write it? n/t shira Nov 2015 #63
No thanks. Go play some place else. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #65
The OP is just right-wing propaganda... Little Tich Sep 2015 #3
No it's not oberliner Sep 2015 #6
If the Arabs of East Jerusalem had equal rights, political as well as religious, I would agree with Little Tich Sep 2015 #11
Banning Jews & Christians is discrimination. How is this even debatable? shira Nov 2015 #57
I don't understand. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #66
I usually don't mess with old threads, but I'll answer you this time. Little Tich Dec 2015 #67
Great response. Shaktimaan Dec 2015 #68
Apparently the Wailing Wall has been demoted or something for 48 years we've been told azurnoir Sep 2015 #22
Obviously you've never been to Israel ? King_David Sep 2015 #27
Thank you for making my point for me azurnoir Sep 2015 #29
Temple Mount is THE holiest place for Judaism King_David Sep 2015 #31
yes so holy that many Orthodox Rabbi's say that Jews should not walk on the Haram al Sharif azurnoir Sep 2015 #33
Oh so your an expert on Judaism now? King_David Sep 2015 #34
again you make my point and that is why Orthodox Rabbi's say it should not be trodden on azurnoir Sep 2015 #37
Who cares what some Orthodox Rabbis say King_David Sep 2015 #40
I'm not debating anything I'm telling you what Orthodox Rabbi's say on both sides of the question azurnoir Sep 2015 #45
None of that's relevant to the fact it's the Holiest place for Jews, who believe this King_David Sep 2015 #48
HAHAHAHAHA R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #55
It's laughable that you have attempted to cloth yourself in the robes of most all-knowing R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #52
The chutzpah of anyone on the outside to tell Jews or Muslims where they may or may not pray . King_David Sep 2015 #35
LOL do you know me personally? chutzpah indeed azurnoir Sep 2015 #38
Maybe not you personally King_David Sep 2015 #42
No I did not say that at all :) azurnoir Sep 2015 #44
( ( ( ( W-R-O-N-G ) ) ) ) R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #54
I'm practically in tears writing this. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2015 #53
Great piece leftynyc Sep 2015 #4
Yep ...Just look at the thread. King_David Sep 2015 #8
So not surprised leftynyc Sep 2015 #9
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