Israel/Palestine

shira

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107. The Bedouin would be the first to tell you they're not Palestinians.

Reply to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #102)

Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:33 PM

Nov 2015

http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.533155

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An Organized Barbarity Called 'Demolishing Terrorists’ Homes' [View all] Jefferson23 Nov 2015 OP

that's how people roll in the Middle East--collective punishment is the rule in that geek tragedy Nov 2015 #1

+1. Their neighbors leaders, yes. n/t Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #2

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #3

Needless to say, homes of Jewish terrorists never get demolished. Little Tich Nov 2015 #4

I was just going to as the same thing. procon Nov 2015 #5

It is nothing less than old southern Klan bigotry in action. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #6

This is total BS oberliner Nov 2015 #11

Weird how this animates folks more than terror attacks against 80 year old women. n/t shira Nov 2015 #14

funny how some get more worked up over Facebook posts than collective punishment, geek tragedy Nov 2015 #16

How is it possible not to get worked up over UN employees inciting..... shira Nov 2015 #17

if you were a Palestinian living in Gaza, or the West Bank for that matter, geek tragedy Nov 2015 #18

This isn't about positive/negative views of Jews..... shira Nov 2015 #19

Do you consider calls for ethinc cleansing of Palestinians to be hateful incitement? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #20

Do you? If so, calling for the ethnic cleansing of all Jews from the W.Bank & Gaza..... shira Nov 2015 #21

Well, you have posted articles explicitly calling for Arabs to be ethnicly cleansed, geek tragedy Nov 2015 #22

No I haven't. Read the article again. shira Nov 2015 #23

I did. Here, let me quote for you the hateful, genocidalist incitement you posted at DU geek tragedy Nov 2015 #24

You missed a few of my comments about not seeing page 2 of that article.... shira Nov 2015 #25

the article is published at a well-known Jewish hate site that reveres Meir Kahane nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #26

The writer of that article also wrote the following... shira Nov 2015 #27

So you're good with 2 states & Jews living as Palestinians within a future Palestine? shira Nov 2015 #112

Hmm. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #33

There is no parallel. Only the fringest of the fringe nuts in Israel.... shira Nov 2015 #35

See "The Nakba" you old historian, you. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #59

There was a war, you know. Israel did not start that.... shira Nov 2015 #68

Your lame excuses are laughable as always. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #82

War isn't a lame excuse. Name one in which there were no refugees. shira Nov 2015 #84

You always play the either or game: to your usual humiliation. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #101

Changing the topic in midstream b/c you're losing the argument.... shira Nov 2015 #106

AHAHAHAHAH! R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #109

Thank you for posting about these heroic incidents from our country's glorious past. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #38

What do you make of Hamas' genocidal intent & terror based on that intent? n/t shira Nov 2015 #69

I believe that you are being completely disingenuous. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #58

Are u more offended by Israel demolishing terrorists' homes in the W.Bank.... shira Nov 2015 #66

Are you more offended by chicken or roast beef, shira? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #85

Simple question - what do you fear by answering it? n/t shira Nov 2015 #86

I prefer fish, actually. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #103

Do you have something to hide by dodging the simplest questions? n/t shira Nov 2015 #108

I just find your "either or" questions rather sophomoric in nature and ridiculous overall. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #111

true, the purpose is more ethnic cleansing than per se apartheid geek tragedy Nov 2015 #15

Not even remotely oberliner Nov 2015 #28

are these the only home demolitions Israel conducts? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #36

No oberliner Nov 2015 #46

Is East Jerusalem an unrecognized town? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #53

No, East Jerusalem is part of the Occupied West Bank oberliner Nov 2015 #56

Having two different legal systems for civilians due to their ethnicity / nationality is one Little Tich Nov 2015 #30

Israel has the same legal system for all civilians oberliner Nov 2015 #32

Not for non-Israelis in the occupied territories. Little Tich Nov 2015 #37

Obviously oberliner Nov 2015 #45

The only places I know of with two separate legal systems for civilians are Little Tich Nov 2015 #51

England and Scotland have two different legal systems oberliner Nov 2015 #88

I think you're misunderstanding the issue on purpose. Little Tich Nov 2015 #104

... R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #117

That's not how it works in the United States. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #61

Non-citizens do not have the same rights as citizens of the USA. n/t shira Nov 2015 #67

very few differences, assuming they're here legally nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #70

They don't have the same rights - and it's not apartheid. n/t shira Nov 2015 #71

They have the same rights if they're here legally. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #73

Over 10 million American citizens are denied voting rights & most are minorities.... shira Nov 2015 #76

That you compare how Israel treats all Palestinians to how the US treats convicted felons geek tragedy Nov 2015 #77

Just saying - if you think Israel is Apartheid, then America is moreso. shira Nov 2015 #78

the West Bank is an apartheid state, de facto geek tragedy Nov 2015 #79

If you say so.....then America is even more Apartheid. shira Nov 2015 #80

there is nothing in the United States remotely as hideously racist geek tragedy Nov 2015 #81

10 million Americans, most of whom are minorities, might disagree. shira Nov 2015 #83

oy. perhaps you don't realize how profoundly stupid your argument is. geek tragedy Nov 2015 #87

You're the one arguing apartheid when Palestinians have equal rights.... shira Nov 2015 #90

the west bank is an apartheid state. there are Jews-only roads, Jews-only towns, geek tragedy Nov 2015 #91

It's not apartheid - and there are no Jew-only roads.... shira Nov 2015 #92

Lol, Israeli-only roads that lead to Jews-only colonies inside the West Bank. nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #93

Palestinians live in the settlements too. shira Nov 2015 #94

Making shit up again? Please provide a link showing the % of the West Bank geek tragedy Nov 2015 #95

Dec. 2014: Leave or let live? Arabs move in to Jewish settlements shira Nov 2015 #96

So you consider Jerusalem a settlement rather than part of Israel proper? nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #97

Huh? Are they not settlements in your views? Reuters reports them as settlements. shira Nov 2015 #99

the apartheid roads in question are not between east and west jerusalem. pay attention nt geek tragedy Nov 2015 #100

There are no apartheid roads. Did you know Israeli Arabs, not Jews.... shira Nov 2015 #105

That statement really brings out the Netanyahu R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #60

It's immoral whether they're citizens or not Solero Nov 2015 #52

Which offends you more? Terror attacks on random Jews or demolition of terrorists' homes? n/t shira Nov 2015 #72

I do declare, Mr. Oberliner, that your basless retort R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #57

Palestinians who are Israeli citizens aren't treated like Palestinians in the W.Bank.... shira Nov 2015 #74

The Bedouin are. God, you are fekking awful. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #102

The Bedouin would be the first to tell you they're not Palestinians. shira Nov 2015 #107

And yet they're supposedly Israeli citizens, and are treated as badly as Palestinians in the WB. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #110

Bedouin are treated badly by anti-Zionist BDS'ers who boycott them... shira Nov 2015 #113

BDS isn't stealing Bedouin land, Shria, but do go on with your phantoms... R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #114

Funny, the Bedouin diplomat doesn't agree with you at all... shira Nov 2015 #115

Nobody worth a damn buys what you're selling. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #116

Me neither ...nt. Israeli Nov 2015 #119

Israeli citizens vs. non-Israeli citizens oberliner Nov 2015 #10

I see, as long as it only involves discrimination against Palestinians, its perfectly fine? procon Nov 2015 #12

Didn't say it was fine oberliner Nov 2015 #29

Tell that to Bedouin of the Negev azurnoir Nov 2015 #42

The Bedouin of the Negev? oberliner Nov 2015 #44

and yet it shows my point the Bedouin as non-Jews have their homes demolished azurnoir Nov 2015 #48

Don't you jest love the easy hypocrisy R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #62

Wrong oberliner..... Israeli Nov 2015 #120

More like if we moved into Mexico, and burned out the houses of non-American Hispanics Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #39

That sums it up in a nutshell. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #63

Perfect analogy Solero Nov 2015 #54

it's so horrible when something bad happens to terrorists 6chars Nov 2015 #75

yes, every criminal's mother should be forced to live on the street. As should his children and geek tragedy Nov 2015 #89

Oh please, just stop it. procon Nov 2015 #98

i just don't lose much sleep over this one 6chars Nov 2015 #118

why does Israel continue this practice after studies showed it did nothing azurnoir Nov 2015 #7

punishment is intended to satisfy society rather than deter criminals geek tragedy Nov 2015 #8

Deterence, or so they think..they're not interested in the consequences as Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #9

That's just it Israel's own studies show it doesn't work as a deterrence azurnoir Nov 2015 #41

What studies? oberliner Nov 2015 #47

An Israeli military committee I suppose we could quibble study but here's the link azurnoir Nov 2015 #49

I think the message has always been: submit, ya bastids! Jefferson23 Nov 2015 #50

Terrorism. procon Nov 2015 #13

Nothing that you've written here is true oberliner Nov 2015 #31

True, and I would not dispute that. procon Nov 2015 #34

Most likely true oberliner Nov 2015 #43

Unfortunately that might be the case Solero Nov 2015 #55

Do you ever get tired of using that "nothing line"? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #64

Good point oberliner Nov 2015 #65

Eh 6chars Nov 2015 #40