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leftynyc

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43. I understand the lying

Reply to GitRDun (Reply #31)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 09:09 AM

Dec 2015

that is involved in those who try and delegitimize Israel's Jewish ties to the land. Is that what you mean?

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Indigenous in Jerusalem [View all] shira Dec 2015 OP

You sure love conservative authors Shira. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #1

You sure love to derail a thread. Got a problem w/ Jews being indigenous to Israel? n/t shira Dec 2015 #3

Nice try. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #4

As you can see below, I have reason to suspect you'd have a problem.... shira Dec 2015 #16

Same way the Navajo are indigenous to northern Siberia Scootaloo Dec 2015 #5

That's some offensive shit 6chars Dec 2015 #6

Not at all, if you understand anything about human migration patterns and history Scootaloo Dec 2015 #7

Intended to be offensive and is offensive 6chars Dec 2015 #8

Pearl clutching in overdrive. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #10

It's a subject of intense study for me, actually. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #14

I know what you're doing 6chars Dec 2015 #20

I'm educating you on a subject you seem to have little understanding of Scootaloo Dec 2015 #22

Nope that's not it. 6chars Dec 2015 #25

It's relevant to the subject of how migrations impact "indigenous" status Scootaloo Dec 2015 #26

"mostly from Europe" 6chars Dec 2015 #27

You're welcome Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33

silly 6chars Dec 2015 #36

+1 King_David Dec 2015 #38

Thank you for that correction Scootaloo Dec 2015 #48

Immigrants can definitely be indigenous shira Dec 2015 #79

You need to answer a question you've been avoiding Scootaloo Dec 2015 #80

I refer you to the Martinez-Cobo definition for an answer to that... shira Dec 2015 #82

I'm asking you, Shira. What's your opinion? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #83

Do you accept the Martinez-Cobo definition? I do. So how about you? n/t shira Dec 2015 #84

I'm asking about your creative re-interpretation of it Scootaloo Dec 2015 #85

So I take that as a "No", you don't accept the Martinez-Cobo def'n. shira Dec 2015 #86

you left something out azurnoir Dec 2015 #87

Not really... shira Dec 2015 #89

More bullshit leftynyc Dec 2015 #42

Nice! GitRDun Dec 2015 #31

I understand the lying leftynyc Dec 2015 #43

It's a non argument GitRDun Dec 2015 #68

Some are having the same problem with accepting that R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #88

Unbelievable King_David Dec 2015 #12

Indigenous status is more than just blood quantum, which Jews have BTW... shira Dec 2015 #17

Who said anything about "Blood quantum?" Scootaloo Dec 2015 #18

Just saying, Jews meet all the requirements of an indigenous people. shira Dec 2015 #19

You didn't answer my question. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #21

There are some posters here who are being disingenuous 6chars Dec 2015 #23

"The obsession some have with " King_David Dec 2015 #47

So an archeological find... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #29

Unfortunately for you leftynyc Dec 2015 #44

There has never been a country called Palestine Mosby Dec 2015 #49

You certainly love to dismiss away the right wing sources you post. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #9

Why don't u post the rightwing Mondoweiss view of Jewish indigenous status? shira Dec 2015 #15

Mondoweiss has written articles in support of Anne Coulter King_David Dec 2015 #24

Mondoweiss points out that those two you mentioned R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #34

Mondoweiss is fascist rightwing and supports fascist rightwing Palestinian leaders.... shira Dec 2015 #50

"Everyone who knows anything... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #52

In your next reply you should drop a couple names shira Dec 2015 #55

Being this is my next reply... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #57

So let's remember from now on the BDS antiZionist cause is far rightwing. shira Dec 2015 #59

Naw, let's remember that you are full of beans. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #61

BDS? What a laugher. You can't name one BDS leader to the left of Netanyahu. n/t shira Dec 2015 #64

I don't play silly hasbara games. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #66

BDS shamefully bullies 13 year old Israeli girls & American Jews like Matisyahu. shira Dec 2015 #70

Ya see, there you go. Silly away. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #71

BDS are Bigots King_David Dec 2015 #72

Bigots who support & have same goals as the fascists of Hamas. n/t shira Dec 2015 #73

Why do the OTT anti Israel , antiZionists post on DU King_David Dec 2015 #11

cyber jihadis 6chars Dec 2015 #13

Awww - that's adorable leftynyc Dec 2015 #40

Another brilliant anti Obama piece from your conservative author. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #2

And MORE deflection from this story leftynyc Dec 2015 #41

The attempt to minimize Jewish link to Israel is usually the domain of the extreme right... King_David Dec 2015 #58

I sometimes wonder how leftynyc Dec 2015 #76

I'm not so sure about Jews being "indigenous" anywhere, but it's pretty clear that Jews and Little Tich Dec 2015 #28

In the sense that no one is indigenous anywhere 6chars Dec 2015 #30

I was referring to the sense of "indigenous peoples" which I think was the intent of the OP. Little Tich Dec 2015 #32

Jews are indigenous according to that definition. n/t shira Dec 2015 #35

Great point! 6chars Dec 2015 #37

I find it fascinating anyone would deny that - given a very clear def'n of the term. n/t shira Dec 2015 #39

I'm loving the pathetic whining leftynyc Dec 2015 #45

It's the politics of exclusion rather than the politics of reasoning & science shira Dec 2015 #69

It seems as if I've made a mistake. Little Tich Dec 2015 #60

Depends on which Palestinians. The Bedouin are, but they're not Palestinians.... shira Dec 2015 #62

Palestinians are directly descended from the prehistoric population of Palestine. Little Tich Dec 2015 #63

Which Palestinians? Certainly not all. And that's not enough according to the definition.... shira Dec 2015 #65

I don't want to discuss the term "indigenous peoples" anymore, it's watered down and worthless. Little Tich Dec 2015 #67

I don't blame you. It's a losing argument for you. shira Dec 2015 #81

For those who can't do leftynyc Dec 2015 #46

Science and reason are very bad to those who bash Israel. n/t shira Dec 2015 #51

The only reason they haven't found leftynyc Dec 2015 #53

And the reason they're forbidden to dig COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #54

But of course leftynyc Dec 2015 #56

I'm glad you're able to see the difference between the OP and your links. Little Tich Dec 2015 #74

But I don't see the difference leftynyc Dec 2015 #75

The OP reads like a eulogy to the glorious history of the Jewish people. Little Tich Dec 2015 #77

So very sorry you seem leftynyc Dec 2015 #78