Israel/Palestine

Mosby

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49. There has never been a country called Palestine

Reply to Docreed2003 (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:48 PM

Dec 2015

Jews have lived in Israel, Judea and Samaria continuously for more than three thousand years. Expulsions, conquests, exiles and genocides have kept the Jewish population in their homelands lower than expected but Jews never gave up their right to live in their own country and never will.

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Indigenous in Jerusalem [View all] shira Dec 2015 OP

You sure love conservative authors Shira. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #1

You sure love to derail a thread. Got a problem w/ Jews being indigenous to Israel? n/t shira Dec 2015 #3

Nice try. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #4

As you can see below, I have reason to suspect you'd have a problem.... shira Dec 2015 #16

Same way the Navajo are indigenous to northern Siberia Scootaloo Dec 2015 #5

That's some offensive shit 6chars Dec 2015 #6

Not at all, if you understand anything about human migration patterns and history Scootaloo Dec 2015 #7

Intended to be offensive and is offensive 6chars Dec 2015 #8

Pearl clutching in overdrive. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #10

It's a subject of intense study for me, actually. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #14

I know what you're doing 6chars Dec 2015 #20

I'm educating you on a subject you seem to have little understanding of Scootaloo Dec 2015 #22

Nope that's not it. 6chars Dec 2015 #25

It's relevant to the subject of how migrations impact "indigenous" status Scootaloo Dec 2015 #26

"mostly from Europe" 6chars Dec 2015 #27

You're welcome Scootaloo Dec 2015 #33

silly 6chars Dec 2015 #36

+1 King_David Dec 2015 #38

Thank you for that correction Scootaloo Dec 2015 #48

Immigrants can definitely be indigenous shira Dec 2015 #79

You need to answer a question you've been avoiding Scootaloo Dec 2015 #80

I refer you to the Martinez-Cobo definition for an answer to that... shira Dec 2015 #82

I'm asking you, Shira. What's your opinion? Scootaloo Dec 2015 #83

Do you accept the Martinez-Cobo definition? I do. So how about you? n/t shira Dec 2015 #84

I'm asking about your creative re-interpretation of it Scootaloo Dec 2015 #85

So I take that as a "No", you don't accept the Martinez-Cobo def'n. shira Dec 2015 #86

you left something out azurnoir Dec 2015 #87

Not really... shira Dec 2015 #89

More bullshit leftynyc Dec 2015 #42

Nice! GitRDun Dec 2015 #31

I understand the lying leftynyc Dec 2015 #43

It's a non argument GitRDun Dec 2015 #68

Some are having the same problem with accepting that R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #88

Unbelievable King_David Dec 2015 #12

Indigenous status is more than just blood quantum, which Jews have BTW... shira Dec 2015 #17

Who said anything about "Blood quantum?" Scootaloo Dec 2015 #18

Just saying, Jews meet all the requirements of an indigenous people. shira Dec 2015 #19

You didn't answer my question. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #21

There are some posters here who are being disingenuous 6chars Dec 2015 #23

"The obsession some have with " King_David Dec 2015 #47

So an archeological find... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #29

Unfortunately for you leftynyc Dec 2015 #44

There has never been a country called Palestine Mosby Dec 2015 #49

You certainly love to dismiss away the right wing sources you post. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #9

Why don't u post the rightwing Mondoweiss view of Jewish indigenous status? shira Dec 2015 #15

Mondoweiss has written articles in support of Anne Coulter King_David Dec 2015 #24

Mondoweiss points out that those two you mentioned R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #34

Mondoweiss is fascist rightwing and supports fascist rightwing Palestinian leaders.... shira Dec 2015 #50

"Everyone who knows anything... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #52

In your next reply you should drop a couple names shira Dec 2015 #55

Being this is my next reply... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #57

So let's remember from now on the BDS antiZionist cause is far rightwing. shira Dec 2015 #59

Naw, let's remember that you are full of beans. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #61

BDS? What a laugher. You can't name one BDS leader to the left of Netanyahu. n/t shira Dec 2015 #64

I don't play silly hasbara games. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #66

BDS shamefully bullies 13 year old Israeli girls & American Jews like Matisyahu. shira Dec 2015 #70

Ya see, there you go. Silly away. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2015 #71

BDS are Bigots King_David Dec 2015 #72

Bigots who support & have same goals as the fascists of Hamas. n/t shira Dec 2015 #73

Why do the OTT anti Israel , antiZionists post on DU King_David Dec 2015 #11

cyber jihadis 6chars Dec 2015 #13

Awww - that's adorable leftynyc Dec 2015 #40

Another brilliant anti Obama piece from your conservative author. ForgoTheConsequence Dec 2015 #2

And MORE deflection from this story leftynyc Dec 2015 #41

The attempt to minimize Jewish link to Israel is usually the domain of the extreme right... King_David Dec 2015 #58

I sometimes wonder how leftynyc Dec 2015 #76

I'm not so sure about Jews being "indigenous" anywhere, but it's pretty clear that Jews and Little Tich Dec 2015 #28

In the sense that no one is indigenous anywhere 6chars Dec 2015 #30

I was referring to the sense of "indigenous peoples" which I think was the intent of the OP. Little Tich Dec 2015 #32

Jews are indigenous according to that definition. n/t shira Dec 2015 #35

Great point! 6chars Dec 2015 #37

I find it fascinating anyone would deny that - given a very clear def'n of the term. n/t shira Dec 2015 #39

I'm loving the pathetic whining leftynyc Dec 2015 #45

It's the politics of exclusion rather than the politics of reasoning & science shira Dec 2015 #69

It seems as if I've made a mistake. Little Tich Dec 2015 #60

Depends on which Palestinians. The Bedouin are, but they're not Palestinians.... shira Dec 2015 #62

Palestinians are directly descended from the prehistoric population of Palestine. Little Tich Dec 2015 #63

Which Palestinians? Certainly not all. And that's not enough according to the definition.... shira Dec 2015 #65

I don't want to discuss the term "indigenous peoples" anymore, it's watered down and worthless. Little Tich Dec 2015 #67

I don't blame you. It's a losing argument for you. shira Dec 2015 #81

For those who can't do leftynyc Dec 2015 #46

Science and reason are very bad to those who bash Israel. n/t shira Dec 2015 #51

The only reason they haven't found leftynyc Dec 2015 #53

And the reason they're forbidden to dig COLGATE4 Dec 2015 #54

But of course leftynyc Dec 2015 #56

I'm glad you're able to see the difference between the OP and your links. Little Tich Dec 2015 #74

But I don't see the difference leftynyc Dec 2015 #75

The OP reads like a eulogy to the glorious history of the Jewish people. Little Tich Dec 2015 #77

So very sorry you seem leftynyc Dec 2015 #78