Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Israel’s Settlers Are Here to Stay (NY Times op-ed) [View all]pelsar
(12,283 posts)did you miss 1973, when the IDF and govt "knew" the Egyptians were not going to attack?
Furthermore there is this thing called politics and cabinets and different opinions, not to mention "changing ones minds". If israel had not mobilized would have egypt attacked? how about a partial mobilization? maybe they would have blockaded haifa, seeing that eilat went so well?
not only am i not good at rereading the past via the present, nor am i good at reading the future, i also don't believe in the "parallel world" religion that states we can predict what would have happened if only "x" did "y" (ignoring all of the other zillion factors involved)
and just for fun? your list: your actually using politician speeches as proof of something?, or Mate Peled? Johnson to Eban? why not just use Bush? Nixon? (actually him i might even believe) as "proof" that at one point in life some famous people believed what you believed...
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as far as "being threatened" i think you somehow believe that there is no difference between words and actions. There is in fact a very very big difference. You will find this difference very true especially when it comes to international relations. Countries talk a lot, make lots of noises, but only when that actually do something physically do things start to really change.
The blockade of Eilat, removal of the UN were those actions.....
when you threaten to eliminate a country...there maybe unintended consequences (thats why in 73, they kept their mouths shut and tried it a different way).