Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Israel’s Settlers Are Here to Stay (NY Times op-ed) [View all]pelsar
(12,283 posts)according to your convoluted logic, why did egypt even shoot back at the IDF and therefor save 1000's of live?...why blame israel for what egypt started?
remember according to you the egyptians didnt have a chance, the war was a forgone conclusion (correct?) so perhaps you should be blaming the egyptians for not giving up once they realized they "miscalculated" on their initial aggression.....
your answer should be interesting, you can even find a quote for our amusement...
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why do you insist on using quotes and 'military intelligence of proof of anything?...if i find the exact opposite are you going to say "oops your right, your quotes are "better than mine."
here: high egyptian moral? satisfied? my quote proves your wrong:
Nevertheless, the Egyptian navy was able to preserve its fighting capabilities.... Discipline and morale were high, the standard of training excellent.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/1998/380/fo3.htm
The Egyptian forces have taken up positions in accordance with our predetermined plans. The morale of our armed forces is very high, for this is the day they have so long been waiting for, for this holy war.
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~samuel/beforesixdaywar.html
since i too have produce quotes, i now expect you to admit that my quotes are better than your quotes and that you were wrong in your beliefs about the Egyptian army moral. After all i'm quoting an Egyptian General, General Murtagi
further more miltary intelligence proves nothing...give me a number... of how many times military intelligence was wrong for you to accept that they can, are wrong and prove nothin...how many examples would you like?
put your number here:
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You have yet to provide any support that an Arab 3:1 superiority was sufficient for any IDF High Command to lose sleep
Rabin the chief of staff has a nervous break down during the period before the war:
CASE CLOSED (lets see if you accept that as anything, most "believers" dont change their minds even when they are proven wrong using their OWN CRITERIA as you are here....)
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Your example of quantity beating quality was ridiculous.... 1n 1973, the Egyptians had surprise on their side and 90,000 men across the canal by day three but they were still defeated by a numerically inferior IDF.
so its just wars where quality always beats quantity now, not battles? I didnt know that surprise wasn't an acceptable strategy in your statement, can the lesser side also have guns in their attack or does that also disqualify them in your eyes?
And.....you just changed your initial statement, from a quality force alway beating quantity now to this:
I am still waiting for you to produce even one example, comparable to the Egyption 1967 threat
i already gave you examples where quantity beat quality as per your first claim, in battles...so now you've decided to move the goal posts (you've been caught).....there is no war that was comparable to the 6 day war, not in geography, men, equipment, etc hence nothing can be proven based on anything in the past....hence your claim in fact is based on nothing more than your belief...and i dont argue with true believers, as nothing can be proven one way or another.