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In reply to the discussion: Israel’s Settlers Are Here to Stay (NY Times op-ed) [View all]pelsar
(12,283 posts)138. lets try again... stop moving the 'goal posts"
Last edited Fri Aug 10, 2012, 04:42 AM - Edit history (6)
So you admit the IDF fired the first shotsyour complaint was is that israel didnt have to attack and kill... (i'm ignoring your latest version....i noticed that when you dont like the answer, you ignore it, modify your question and ask again, hence you dont have to face the reaity that your were wrong..we'll just stick to yo your original questions.- take responsibility for you questions and dont try to weasel out and change them....
i asked you since you believe egypt knew they were going to lose why didnt they all surrender and stop the war?
well?..just answer the question? i promise wont change the question add more conditions like you do, if you answer it clearly, but do try to answer it...
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you asked for quotes about egyptian moral..i gave you two: end of story, i dont really care if you dont like the egyptian general or the Egypitan navy. You asked for quotes and got them
your quote was pathetic....(israeli military intelligence?......who is that? and was that the same guy who said that egypt wont attack in 73?...whats his name again?)
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you asked if the israei generals were "losing sleep" over the pressure: I answered, Rabin had a nervous breakdown (no I didnt use camera, its common knowledge).
you asked I answered...you were wrong...man up and admit it
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you ask for battles and wars where the "quality ones lost"....
Why are you so reluctant to produce any comparable war/battle?
well lets see....everytime i answer you (post 117), you decide to change your original statement and makes excuses why my answer is no longer relevant. (3:1 ratios, first world vs third world etc)
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i think you should first admit that your initial posts were in fact answered...and since you didnt like the answers (i.e. you were shownto be wrong) you decided to modify the questions or reject the answers....
moral for the egyptian army- answered
"israeli generals losing sleep" answered
quality forces losing to quantity: answered
i dont really care if you dont like the answers, you were answered with the same "quality answer as per your own sources and infact better.
your whole thesis is based on the fact that israel just knew they had nothing to fear from the surrounding arab armies, yet Rabin had a breakdown....i.e. clearly the chief of staff of the IDF didnt not have such bold confidence....
lets see you squirm out of that one....go find some quotes that he was really worried about his hamsters or something that caused the breakdown....i'm sure there is a speach from the "hamster society" that you can quote that will attest to it.
not answered: if egypt new they were going to lose the war after israel attacked why didnt they just give up and save lives?
well?- no squriming, no deflections....so far you've shown that questions you dont like, that show your beliefs are wrong, you dont answer....what a surprise.
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So, Americans are now supposed to fight another couple wars to keep this guy in place?
leveymg
Jul 2012
#1
Israel's presence in the West Bank is the very definition of a colonial enterprise.
bemildred
Jul 2012
#15
i answer when were talking about the samething....Palestenian power to make changes.
pelsar
Jul 2012
#101
Kayecy: As a "last resort" Israel forced Palestinians to become suicide bombers....
shira
Jul 2012
#50
The Palestinians have the power to stop that. Settlers would've ended 12 years ago...
shira
Jul 2012
#39
It is perfectly clear to anyone with a brain that they do not have the power to stop that.
bemildred
Jul 2012
#52
Jews have lived in Greece and Turkey for longer than they've lived in Israel...
shaayecanaan
Jul 2012
#44
The difference between Palestinians in the West Bank and Palestinians in Jerusalem and Israel Proper
Ken Burch
Jul 2012
#46
Yeah, it was. Closing off the Straits of Tiran alone was an act of war vs. Israel...
shira
Jul 2012
#37
It is a subject of great and vituperative dispute, which is why I now avoid arguing about it.
bemildred
Jul 2012
#59
Egypt did in 1973. Had Israel pre-empted at the last minute, you'd blame Israel....
shira
Jul 2012
#77
Again, had Israel pre-empted Egypt in 1973 at the very last minute you would say...
shira
Jul 2012
#81
This is why you guys can't expect to be taken seriously. Egypt attacked Israel in 1973...
shira
Jul 2012
#78
Kayecy: Why did Rabin have a nervous breakdown in the days leading up to the '67 war?
shira
Aug 2012
#121
it would be best if you stop making things up and concentrate on the subject...
pelsar
Aug 2012
#133
Actually, there were 5 causes of war & Israel tried handling it diplomatically first...
shira
Aug 2012
#148
according to this poll more Israeli's are ready to have it that way too-forever
azurnoir
Jul 2012
#86