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Violet_Crumble

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Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:16 AM Oct 2012

A lesson in remembering that Israel could learn from Australia [View all]

Even in Sydney's well-to-do neighborhoods, there are people who make sure to show their appreciation for the 'original custodians of this land.'

By Akiva Eldar | Oct.30, 2012 | 4:15 AM |


SYDNEY - On Sunday afternoon, after the end of the event at the local community center, it was hard to find a table at any of the cafes scattered along the length of Watsons Bay, one of Sydney's countless escapist venues. Parties, villas, cars, yachts and money (primarily money) are the favorite topics of conversation of the residents of the eastern suburbs that overlook white-sailed boats in their berths.

What do these privileged folks have to do with any troublesome, heretical thoughts about the sins of their forebears who came from faraway places? The teeth of the tanned young men zipping along in Mercedes convertibles seated beside smiling, blonde young women are as a white as can be. No wonder that young Israelis fed up with war and misgivings in a hard country to live in are attracted to this distant place.

However, at the modest little community center nearby, we had an opportunity to meet a different Australia, the one that sparks jealousy. Several dozen people crowded around simple wooden stalls displaying a selection of items from the culture of the aborigines, the original inhabitants of the area. A volunteer offered pins and small flags showing appreciation for the community, half of whose 500,000 members (the ones not wiped out by the whites and their alcohol) live in the greater Sydney area.

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Who said Iran and Israel don't have any political common denominator? Look, both of them voted a week ago to elect Australia a non-permanent member of the United Nations Security Council. Both of them helped make it so that over the next two years, Canberra will join the list of places eagerly courted by the two enemies. Even so, they both criticized the investment of $25 million in the campaign to join the exclusive diplomatic club. The budget was designated primarily for courting African and Arab countries.

Whatever Iran's reasons for supporting Australia, Israel certainly had a good reason to support such a step: Rarely do Australian governments disagree with their American friends when it comes to votes on Middle East affairs. An Australian commentator wrote in recent days that membership in the Security Council obligates the Canberra government to break away from Washington, including on the matter of the war in Afghanistan.

During the two-year tenure of the Australian ambassador at the UN, he may have to vote in favor (or against? ) stiffening the sanctions against Iran. If the Palestinians decide to submit their request to upgrade their status to the Security Council, it is possible that Australia, which supports the establishment of a Palestinian state (and opposes the settlements ), will face a tough dilemma: Should it deny its position and present itself to the whole world as the Americans' poodle, or should it display its independence and leave its big brother alone in the fight

http://www.haaretz.com/news/features/a-lesson-in-remembering-that-israel-could-learn-from-australia.premium-1.473122
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In my opinion Australia needs to learn a lot if lessons from King_David Oct 2012 #1
Then you know nothing about Australia... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #2
Canada has nothing to lecture Australia about. bemildred Oct 2012 #11
Admittedly, Australia is rather ill-equipped in that area also (nt) shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #18
The legacy of the British Empire lives on in all of us. bemildred Oct 2012 #20
This would be the Canada where a World War II-era immigration official... Ken Burch Oct 2012 #30
Please try keep up ... King_David Oct 2012 #37
The vast majority of Australia's crimes against Aborigines took place decades ago Ken Burch Oct 2012 #51
I can tell you racial prejudice in Australia is real oberliner Oct 2012 #52
I didn't know you were Australian, for the record. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #55
Oberliner isn't Australian. He was quoting from the blog article in the subject line... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #56
Thanks for the clarification. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #61
Did you not click on the link? oberliner Nov 2012 #58
Sorry, I thought you said YOU were Australian. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #60
No - just posted the title of the piece as the subject oberliner Nov 2012 #63
OK, I've now clicked on the link. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #69
''The ONLY reason you are saying Canada is better than Australia on Aboriginal issues '' King_David Oct 2012 #53
You said Australia has a lot to learn from Canada on tolerance. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #54
So you couldn't point to my post where I said things that you claimed? King_David Nov 2012 #57
It was post #1...and I figured you'd still remember it. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #59
If you did not get caught again , fabricating what a poster has said, King_David Nov 2012 #64
I didn't fabricate. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #67
oki doki then, the lesson to learn is that the King_David Nov 2012 #68
That post was attacking Australia for being intolerant at the governmental level... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #66
Given that Australia ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #3
But unlike Israel, Australia remembers its past... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #4
In point of fact ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #5
I'm not sure why you think the acts of the past have to be the same... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #6
And I'm absolutely certain ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #7
How could I have forgotten that in yr version of things, Israel holds no responsibility... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #8
And in your version ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #9
My version's the one where I've said consistently that both sides hold responsibility... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #10
Ceasar can quote Cato to his purpose ... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #13
That's lovely and all, but I'm telling you what I've always said. Feel free to pretend otherwise... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #14
You surpass youself. aquart Oct 2012 #12
Bah, we have grizzlies, wolves, giant sloths: bemildred Oct 2012 #15
I can't work out who she's calling a white supremacist. Me or Akiva Eldar... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #16
Oh it's you I think. bemildred Oct 2012 #17
I'm scoring the big wins with the accusations of evil this week... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #19
"The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose... holdencaufield Oct 2012 #21
Well, you know just what to do if someone ever calls you a horse three times... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #23
Beware TomClash Oct 2012 #31
Well, I'm in a good mood today, going out of town, by myself, to do what I damn please. bemildred Oct 2012 #22
Have yrself a fun time. I don't get much me-time anymore... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #24
I hope you're going to town strapped. holdencaufield Oct 2012 #25
Where I go there are no people. bemildred Oct 2012 #26
It ain't over 'till it's over ... Yogi Berra holdencaufield Oct 2012 #27
Eldar should know better. aranthus Oct 2012 #28
I don't subscribe either but can read the article Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #40
How to achieve reconcilliation when the two sides can't agree on the truth? aranthus Oct 2012 #46
That's a massive hurdle... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #49
are palestinians interested in reconciliation? Mosby Nov 2012 #62
Probably no more than Israelis are... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #65
List of massacres of Indigenous Australians oberliner Oct 2012 #29
All of which Violet has almost certainly spent many hours denouncing, Ken Burch Oct 2012 #32
Why on earth would Oberliner apologize ? King_David Oct 2012 #33
For falsely implying that Violet holds Israel to a higher standard than her own country. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #34
Again with the accusation that a DU member said things he did not King_David Oct 2012 #35
That was the whole point of posting that link. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #36
I apologize for linking to Wikiedpia oberliner Oct 2012 #38
yes it does azurnoir Oct 2012 #41
The Wikipedia part wasn't the point. Ken Burch Oct 2012 #43
I think you are seeing things that aren't there oberliner Oct 2012 #45
Yes, those things happened in Australia(and in many other places, such as THIS country) Ken Burch Oct 2012 #47
Thanks for intervening oberliner Oct 2012 #44
never mind the last listed incident was almost a century ago azurnoir Oct 2012 #42
And what does that have to do with the OP? Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #39
It sounded to me like a passive-aggressive attempt to drag in the "double standards" canard Ken Burch Oct 2012 #48
It was disappointing to see such a negative reaction to mentioning reconciliation... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #50
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