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In reply to the discussion: A lesson in remembering that Israel could learn from Australia [View all]Violet_Crumble
(35,961 posts)8. How could I have forgotten that in yr version of things, Israel holds no responsibility...
Fatah doesn't have a goal of destroying Israel, and even if Hamas still did, they can't actually carry it out. As for armed struggle against an occupying military, it'd help if Israel went a way in that and removed their military and settlers from the West Bank and didn't oppose moves to create a Palestinian state. See? It's not one-sided thing you portray it as, and while Israel thinks that it's blameless and has no responsibility in getting to the point where reconciliation can happen. Both sides need to do things, not just one..
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A lesson in remembering that Israel could learn from Australia [View all]
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
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The vast majority of Australia's crimes against Aborigines took place decades ago
Ken Burch
Oct 2012
#51
Oberliner isn't Australian. He was quoting from the blog article in the subject line...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#56
''The ONLY reason you are saying Canada is better than Australia on Aboriginal issues ''
King_David
Oct 2012
#53
That post was attacking Australia for being intolerant at the governmental level...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#66
How could I have forgotten that in yr version of things, Israel holds no responsibility...
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
#8
My version's the one where I've said consistently that both sides hold responsibility...
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
#10
That's lovely and all, but I'm telling you what I've always said. Feel free to pretend otherwise...
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
#14
I can't work out who she's calling a white supremacist. Me or Akiva Eldar...
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
#16
Well, you know just what to do if someone ever calls you a horse three times...
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
#23
Well, I'm in a good mood today, going out of town, by myself, to do what I damn please.
bemildred
Oct 2012
#22
For falsely implying that Violet holds Israel to a higher standard than her own country.
Ken Burch
Oct 2012
#34
Yes, those things happened in Australia(and in many other places, such as THIS country)
Ken Burch
Oct 2012
#47
It sounded to me like a passive-aggressive attempt to drag in the "double standards" canard
Ken Burch
Oct 2012
#48
It was disappointing to see such a negative reaction to mentioning reconciliation...
Violet_Crumble
Oct 2012
#50