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Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: The war on the Palestinian olive harvest [View all]Shaktimaan
(5,397 posts)27. The obvious problem...
The term apartheid is not intellectually dishonest, as you say, but real and accurate to a great many Palestinians that live within Israel's policies towards Palestine: blockades, military incursions and attacks of farms/farmers crops.
Is that none of the issues detailed above have much of anything to do with apartheid. If we are to look at Israeli policy and identify it as apartheid, it requires fundamentally altering the original definition of the word. Beyond that, if we then look at the policies imposed by other states, many of which are similar but many more of which are far worse regarding discrimination based on race, religion or nationality, then we are forced to admit that most states in the world are apartheid.
In short, if Israel is apartheid, then most states are apartheid as well, so the word loses its stigma.
As to negatively associating the current I/P issue with a different historical concept all I would say is that it is spot on, and that is what really annoys the critics of such language.
That's funny because after reading your other posts I really am not sure you know what apartheid even is.
Is that none of the issues detailed above have much of anything to do with apartheid. If we are to look at Israeli policy and identify it as apartheid, it requires fundamentally altering the original definition of the word. Beyond that, if we then look at the policies imposed by other states, many of which are similar but many more of which are far worse regarding discrimination based on race, religion or nationality, then we are forced to admit that most states in the world are apartheid.
In short, if Israel is apartheid, then most states are apartheid as well, so the word loses its stigma.
As to negatively associating the current I/P issue with a different historical concept all I would say is that it is spot on, and that is what really annoys the critics of such language.
That's funny because after reading your other posts I really am not sure you know what apartheid even is.
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Officially legitimize them quickly? An illegal settlement outside of Israel proper?
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#37
of course I do and it really doesn't seem much of a problem except for those who wish very very very
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#28
If you are so incline you may keep on drinking the kool-aid then, King D.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#38
I have kept to the topic even when Shsktimaan tried to dance away from it.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#44
I'm glad you can feel confident to double down on the language of "Jewish state."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#52
They prepared very well for standing idly by and doing nothing to stop it...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#23
I wonder if ones like that can't see the difference between settlers and the landowners...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#24
I think that some people get so wrapped up in their 'cause' that they get blind to a lot...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#53