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Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: The war on the Palestinian olive harvest [View all]R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)32. Let's try again since you ignored this.
If Israel doesn't like the situation being called what it is then they are free to ignore such criticism just like they ignore their own citizens growing illegal outposts on Palestinian land.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/31/us-palestinians-israel-settlements-idUSBRE89U0QC20121031
http://www.timesofisrael.com/government-approves-three-illegal-settlements/
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/04/201242484751503415.html
And how their leader says that "America is something that can easily be moved. Moved in the right direction." Sounds like he believes he can say/do whatever he wants and America will be swayed. Netanyahu: the George W. Bush of Israel.
Care to comment on these before you try to move the narrative?
Also.
The crime of apartheid is defined by the 2002 Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court as inhumane acts of a character similar to other crimes against humanity "committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime."
Interestingly, Israel hasn't signed this statute. I wonder why.
Now before you try and move the narrative I just want to explain that I can go further and dig up a lot of factual information on why I believe that Israel is what it is today. They have had two George Bush's in a row as PM (both Ariel and BiBi), and we all know that righties will do whatever it takes to remain in power. If Israel wanted to remove all the illegal settlements outside of their borders they would do it, but they don't. If Israel wanted to cede all the accumulated land outside of their borders they would do it, but they don't. They're going to hold on to whatever land that they can and keep it for as long as possible.
The Palestinians will fight this for as long as they can.
That's the only war they can fight, and I see this as disastrous for both sides.
You can call them terrorists. Many do. I don't condone their acts of violence just as I don't condone Israel's either. For that matter I didn't condone the IRA, Tamil tigers or whomever uses violence to solve a dispute.
All I would like to see it peace between both sides, and them both respecting each other 's people and borders.
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Officially legitimize them quickly? An illegal settlement outside of Israel proper?
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#37
of course I do and it really doesn't seem much of a problem except for those who wish very very very
azurnoir
Nov 2012
#28
If you are so incline you may keep on drinking the kool-aid then, King D.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#38
I have kept to the topic even when Shsktimaan tried to dance away from it.
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#44
I'm glad you can feel confident to double down on the language of "Jewish state."
R. Daneel Olivaw
Nov 2012
#52
They prepared very well for standing idly by and doing nothing to stop it...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#23
I wonder if ones like that can't see the difference between settlers and the landowners...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#24
I think that some people get so wrapped up in their 'cause' that they get blind to a lot...
Violet_Crumble
Nov 2012
#53