Israel/Palestine

Violet_Crumble

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53. I think that some people get so wrapped up in their 'cause' that they get blind to a lot...

Fri Nov 2, 2012, 06:16 PM

Nov 2012

Everything becomes a one-dimensional battlefield, where the aim isn't to wish for a fair and just resolution to the conflict for both Israelis and Palestinians, but an absolute fixation on showing how utterly evil the other 'side' is, and argue against any criticism of their 'side'. It results in some idiotic 'arguments', as in the ones concocted by the settlers where they pretend it's actually Palestinians destroying the olive trees and attacking Palestinian non-combatants, even though there's mountains of video evidence to show the opposite. Even Israeli govts haven't sunk to that level of sheer stupidity and blindness, and haven't denied that the settlers do attack the farmers...

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The war on the Palestinian olive harvest [View all] azurnoir Oct 2012 OP

Are you going to post all of 972mag's articles individually? oberliner Oct 2012 #1

Silence to the present acts of brutality. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #2

'apartheid state '? King_David Oct 2012 #3

Anybody hiding from that term shows more about themselves than fact. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #5

Maybe... Shaktimaan Oct 2012 #19

Actually your hypothesis is off. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #26

The obvious problem... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #27

So I see that you are on to number two already. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #29

a more sensible approach... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #30

Let's try again since you ignored this. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #32

Sure. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #34

Officially legitimize them quickly? An illegal settlement outside of Israel proper? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #37

you are confused... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #39

Proof of Palestinians living in settlements... shira Nov 2012 #81

Now then... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #35

Does this objection to words only apply when they're aimed at Israel? Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #54

Regarding use of the term "apartheid?" Yes. More or less. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #58

Singling Israel out... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #71

Violet, if Israeli policies vs. Palestinians are reminiscent of apartheid... shira Nov 2012 #80

you mean like Desmond Tutu? azurnoir Oct 2012 #7

Tutu has his own issues recently King_David Oct 2012 #13

of course I do and it really doesn't seem much of a problem except for those who wish very very very azurnoir Nov 2012 #28

Umm , so ? nt King_David Nov 2012 #31

Silence is not speaking out oberliner Oct 2012 #4

I would expect no less. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2012 #6

That's great oberliner Oct 2012 #11

Thanks. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #33

You want the best for Israel by demonizing it as King_David Nov 2012 #36

If you are so incline you may keep on drinking the kool-aid then, King D. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #38

Try stick to the topic and not King_David Nov 2012 #41

I have kept to the topic even when Shsktimaan tried to dance away from it. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #44

Israel the Apartheid State : King_David Nov 2012 #47

Keep on laughing, King D. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #48

about your quote azurnoir Nov 2012 #49

Not Apartheid ? King_David Nov 2012 #51

Aint gonna happen King_David Nov 2012 #50

I'm glad you can feel confident to double down on the language of "Jewish state." R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #52

You really are clueless aren't you ? King_David Nov 2012 #55

No, you're just willfully blind. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #60

You do not know much Jewish or Hebrew do you? King_David Nov 2012 #69

Take your fake outrage somplace else, King D. Alright? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #72

Well you denied The Jewish State King_David Nov 2012 #73

Yes, you are wrong, again. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #84

"foolish" ? King_David Nov 2012 #85

Thanks. It just worked wonders, KD. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #86

It implies no such thing. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #74

The problem with yr Italy and Italian thing... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #75

What about Macedonia? oberliner Nov 2012 #76

No problem. It's just semantics. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #82

Of course, you do realize that... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #62

well yes you've certainly spoken out I'll give you that azurnoir Oct 2012 #8

Have you considered walking the walk as well as talking the talk? oberliner Oct 2012 #12

People can criticise Israel without having been to the West Bank... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #16

It was just a question oberliner Nov 2012 #56

Sure, it was just an innocent conversational travel question n/t Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #70

No it wasn't oberliner Nov 2012 #77

you did not answer the question I asked about Desmond Tutu he's been there azurnoir Oct 2012 #17

He definitely acts on his convictions oberliner Nov 2012 #78

Does it matter that this is from 972mag? Ken Burch Nov 2012 #87

There was a time when the Israeli govt condemned these attacks... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #9

No there wasn't oberliner Oct 2012 #10

Yes there was. Olmert condemned the attacks... Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #14

Five attacks on olive harvesters and damaged olive groves in four days Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #15

seeing as how this happens virtually every olive harvest azurnoir Oct 2012 #18

They prepared very well for standing idly by and doing nothing to stop it... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #23

New Video Shows Palestinians, Left Wing Activists Cutting Down Olive Trees shira Oct 2012 #20

black op Zionist Jews, King_David Oct 2012 #21

Keep on laughing if you will. Too bad the video R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #45

I think we have different sense of humours , King_David Nov 2012 #46

so that's what the algeminer calls clearing brush azurnoir Nov 2012 #22

I wonder if ones like that can't see the difference between settlers and the landowners... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #24

Video: Hebron settlers and the olive harvest Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #25

How long until the legitimacy of this video is called into question? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #40

It wouldn't surprise me if it already has been... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #42

I'm not sure why 1+1 doesn't add up to the desired 2 for some. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #43

I think that some people get so wrapped up in their 'cause' that they get blind to a lot... Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #53

If it's Friday, it must be Mondoweiss! oberliner Nov 2012 #57

Or It's friday, and another denier laughs at the truth. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #59

have you noticed... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #64

Can you refute the story? Do you care about the truth? R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #66

Of course I care about the truth. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #67

Seriously? Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #61

I find your tapdance increasingly irrelevant. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #63

That's funny. Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #65

No... it's not that... Shaktimaan Nov 2012 #68

Disgusting child abuse nt Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #83

WATCH: Israelis lend a hand in the West Bank olive harvest Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #79