Palestinians win upgraded UN status by wide margin

[shira]

63. Well that's my response to your accusations

None of what you accused me of is true. I criticize, not demonize. I'm for a Palestinian state based on the Geneva Initiative (look it up). I'm for Israel's right to defend itself (in fact I find it more immoral not to defend a population from terror attacks). WRT the LoN (Balfour) text from 90 years ago, I pointed out a fact (not my opinion). Apparently Balfour, the LoN, and UN believed in a permanent Jewish homeland - and that's why they were against Palestinian political rights). If you have another interpretation for the Mandate for Palestine, go for it (and I won't assume like you that it's your opinion). I'm against settlement expansion, have big problems with settlements deep into the WB like Maale Adumim, do not like extreme settlers (kahanists), & I'm against their building those illegal hilltop shacks - which are illegal according to Israeli Law too.

You just see what you want to see. You just have to believe that all or almost all Zionists are racists, pro-settlements, kahanists, and for killing, ethnic cleansing, apartheid, and oppressing Palestinians. That way you don't have to deal with mainstream liberal zionists. You believe that since they're all the same, you can ridicule, humiliate, and ignore them; never feeling the need to discuss things rationally with them. They can't be liberal or progressive; they must all be rightwing, pro-Likud, etc. Keep trying to believe that...

Now actually, that's something Hamas and the PLO believe too. All zionists are the same. Any Jewish (zionist) coming to Israel (even anti-zionist Jews) after 1920 is a colonialist, thief, racist, etc. Left or Right, they're all bad. How is your position any different?

I also find your comment "ermagerd rerkerts" disturbing. Think of people in Sderot, Ashkelon, and now Tel-Aviv. How do you think they'd respond to your ridicule? They're just over-reacting and whiny? Please. Your contempt of Israelis/Zionists/Jews could not be more clearly on display. You're minimizing war crimes and collective punishment (rocket attacks) against an innocent population & you are accusing others of being in favor of an operation like Pillar of Defense? What's worse? What you're accusing your opponents of or what you are ridiculing?

As to your views and that of other anti-zionists, the Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism thread says it all. One example after another.