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Response to shira (Reply #80)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 07:56 AM

95. *sigh* Neverending... blah with you.

 

You say Israel is just killing kids in Gaza. For Israel to merely defend its citizens is immoral. But then you applaud whoppers like this crap:

http://sync.democraticunderground.com/101781699#post1


Firstly, thank you for posting that video thread with that wonderful display of truth spoken in the face of pure f***ery from the other panellists. The audience, like most of the world, applauded him. I would do so again.

If Israel wants to defend their citizens in a moral way: They would STOP stealing land through their settlement building. What affect, other than outrage and attack, would such a thing produce? The result of these provocations are obviously something Israel wants. They are inviting attacks.

Rather than condemn Hamas' war crimes, he's justifying them.


And are YOU not doing the exact same thing with Israel? Their war crimes are just as heinous, if not more so from the sheer disproportion of indiscriminate killing, as Hamas' rockets. Understanding and not being stupid to the CAUSE of a conflict does not mean you support the actions of the group. The difference between people like you and me: I THINK BOTH SIDES ARE WRONG. You still think Israel is not. What a f***ing joke.

Hamas (and Islamic Jihad) would fire rockets in order to kill Jews even if Israel pulled back to exact '67 lines & offered more concessions than ever before.

The more options for peace, that strengthen more reasonable players like Abbas, would bring more unity and offer Palestinians the hope they need to push out and REJECT Hamas and groups like them. The presumptuous and self-fulfilling scenario you described wouldn't even be a consideration if Israel ENGAGED in a SERIOUS way and not use Hamas a roadblock to ANY progress. Instead, building 3,000 more settlements makes Israel look even more stupid and contemptible. This Zionist government wants to provoke attacks. Keep the status-quo. Play the victim when they do get attacked. Continue the conflict even if it means killing Palestinians like it was a sport going out of fashion. This shit is no different with Hamas who are also contemptible and offer ZERO help in bringing this conflict to a peaceful end.

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