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Response to shira (Reply #97)

Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:19 PM

98. Your post Title is utter BULLCRAP. Just so ya know.

 

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You can argue until you're blue that Hamas has good reason to send rockets, but they're very clear about their intentions and I happen to believe them. Their goal is to eventually destroy Israel, even if it takes another 50-100 years. They want as many Jews killed as possible. They've said so many times.

I never said the reason was "good" or right. All I am saying, just like Owen Jones CORRECTLY pointed out, the provocation was clearly there. The cause can be explained but that doesn't mean HOW Hamas chooses to respond to such provocation is in anyway right. It's so easy for you to inflate the two things to make your vacuous point. I have stated this fact, along with my disdain for their use of rocket attacks and the indiscriminate killing it ultimately leads to. This discussion must be a little too sophisticated for your dull, black & white view on such a complicated and nuanced conflict. Your inability to see the clear faults on BOTH sides shows how much of a flop your arguments really are. Perhaps that's why you seem so frustrated to the point of manipulating my words and lying about me?

I hope everyone noticed how you completely ignored my statements concerning Israel supporting a more united Palestine to push out Hamas and groups like them. Israeli lives can be saved if their government cared more about them and finding a peaceful end. Keep using Hamas as an excuse to block progress. You remain the f***ing problem that way. But isn't that what you ultimately want? So transparent.

The very fact that people like yourself are silent when Hamas is sending thousands of rockets over the border goes to show only one people in this conflict has human rights in your opinion.

Are you just dense, slow, or purposefully ignorant of my statements, to excuse you in saying such crap like that? I am not SILENT about rocket attacks. I am not silent on Hamas being a disgusting player in this conflict who DO use indiscriminate killing to defend themselves just like Israel does. I think your zealot-blinkers are on full blast when you are reading my posts, and you do very little in addressing the points I make. I'm sure that's mainly due to your inability to form a sensible retort, or even remotely understand my point of view without completely manipulating and lying about what I say.

How much more EXPLICIT do I have to be? WTF!? Can you not READ?

People who support Hamas are morally bankrupt and should be marginalized and completely denounced. They don't value life and will sacrifice innocent people to achieve their perceived "righteous" goal of defeating their enemies, both in Palestine and Israel. Hamas are also BLOOD-THIRSTY in their actions of killing indiscriminately. The "blood-thirsty" label isn't exclusive and I find it sadly amusing you're so upset by my earlier use of it. It's sickening that people like Hamas are getting ANY say in the outcome of this conflict. - MY words posted on Nov 30 HERE on this forum. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=24112


I have contempt for both YOU (supportors of Israeli terror attacks) and Islamist groups who inflict terror attacks on Israel and those who support them.

Two despicable groups, too arrogant to take seriously, and too blinded by their own demented points of view, empty of any sense of justice for ALL life. - MY words posted on Nov 30 HERE on this forum. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=24112


I reiterated this AGAIN in a different post below. Because you Zionists can't hear it enough? I hoping, with repetition, it'll sink in eventually. Or perhaps not. *shrugs* The problem you have with me is that I DO condemn both sides and that really bothers you, doesn't it? LOL


Hamas are full of s***. Who are you arguing with?

Yes that is disgusting. But unlike you, I'm not deluded enough to come into this debate thinking either side has clean hands. Hamas are utter bullcrap with the stupid and vicious stuff they say. How are the Zionist creeps any different?
- MY words posted on Nov 30 in a different post.


There are more posts that I have previously made denouncing Hamas. There aren't any people arguing against that fact. People here accept Hamas are abhorrently WRONG in how they deal with Israeli aggression. The only debatable point here is coming from the Zionist-lobby on DU suggesting they stand with clean hands, innocent of indiscriminate killing at a much HIGHER degree due to the sheer scale and DISPROPORTION of their attacks. You people are actually claiming the high ground? HA! In reality, the people ordering the bombings in Gaza, and those who SUPPORT it, are just as f***ed up as Hamas and anyone who supports THEM. << I came into this debate saying exactly that. Whether you want to accept it or not. Stay mad.

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