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KimonoGirl

(89 posts)
98. Your post Title is utter BULLCRAP. Just so ya know.
Sun Dec 2, 2012, 03:19 PM
Dec 2012

Last edited Sun Dec 2, 2012, 06:03 PM - Edit history (1)

You can argue until you're blue that Hamas has good reason to send rockets, but they're very clear about their intentions and I happen to believe them. Their goal is to eventually destroy Israel, even if it takes another 50-100 years. They want as many Jews killed as possible. They've said so many times.

I never said the reason was "good" or right. All I am saying, just like Owen Jones CORRECTLY pointed out, the provocation was clearly there. The cause can be explained but that doesn't mean HOW Hamas chooses to respond to such provocation is in anyway right. It's so easy for you to inflate the two things to make your vacuous point. I have stated this fact, along with my disdain for their use of rocket attacks and the indiscriminate killing it ultimately leads to. This discussion must be a little too sophisticated for your dull, black & white view on such a complicated and nuanced conflict. Your inability to see the clear faults on BOTH sides shows how much of a flop your arguments really are. Perhaps that's why you seem so frustrated to the point of manipulating my words and lying about me?

I hope everyone noticed how you completely ignored my statements concerning Israel supporting a more united Palestine to push out Hamas and groups like them. Israeli lives can be saved if their government cared more about them and finding a peaceful end. Keep using Hamas as an excuse to block progress. You remain the f***ing problem that way. But isn't that what you ultimately want? So transparent.

The very fact that people like yourself are silent when Hamas is sending thousands of rockets over the border goes to show only one people in this conflict has human rights in your opinion.

Are you just dense, slow, or purposefully ignorant of my statements, to excuse you in saying such crap like that? I am not SILENT about rocket attacks. I am not silent on Hamas being a disgusting player in this conflict who DO use indiscriminate killing to defend themselves just like Israel does. I think your zealot-blinkers are on full blast when you are reading my posts, and you do very little in addressing the points I make. I'm sure that's mainly due to your inability to form a sensible retort, or even remotely understand my point of view without completely manipulating and lying about what I say.

How much more EXPLICIT do I have to be? WTF!? Can you not READ?

People who support Hamas are morally bankrupt and should be marginalized and completely denounced. They don't value life and will sacrifice innocent people to achieve their perceived "righteous" goal of defeating their enemies, both in Palestine and Israel. Hamas are also BLOOD-THIRSTY in their actions of killing indiscriminately. The "blood-thirsty" label isn't exclusive and I find it sadly amusing you're so upset by my earlier use of it. It's sickening that people like Hamas are getting ANY say in the outcome of this conflict. - MY words posted on Nov 30 HERE on this forum. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=24112


I have contempt for both YOU (supportors of Israeli terror attacks) and Islamist groups who inflict terror attacks on Israel and those who support them.

Two despicable groups, too arrogant to take seriously, and too blinded by their own demented points of view, empty of any sense of justice for ALL life. - MY words posted on Nov 30 HERE on this forum. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=24112


I reiterated this AGAIN in a different post below. Because you Zionists can't hear it enough? I hoping, with repetition, it'll sink in eventually. Or perhaps not. *shrugs* The problem you have with me is that I DO condemn both sides and that really bothers you, doesn't it? LOL


Hamas are full of s***. Who are you arguing with?

Yes that is disgusting. But unlike you, I'm not deluded enough to come into this debate thinking either side has clean hands. Hamas are utter bullcrap with the stupid and vicious stuff they say. How are the Zionist creeps any different?
- MY words posted on Nov 30 in a different post.

There are more posts that I have previously made denouncing Hamas. There aren't any people arguing against that fact. People here accept Hamas are abhorrently WRONG in how they deal with Israeli aggression. The only debatable point here is coming from the Zionist-lobby on DU suggesting they stand with clean hands, innocent of indiscriminate killing at a much HIGHER degree due to the sheer scale and DISPROPORTION of their attacks. You people are actually claiming the high ground? HA! In reality, the people ordering the bombings in Gaza, and those who SUPPORT it, are just as f***ed up as Hamas and anyone who supports THEM. << I came into this debate saying exactly that. Whether you want to accept it or not. Stay mad.
It's about time they had that status. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1
yep K&R azurnoir Nov 2012 #2
The only appropriate move, really... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #3
Good first step. Let us hope that this is the beginning of a peaceful and prosperous state... LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #4
Agreed Lithos Nov 2012 #55
This poses a huge risk for the Palestinians hack89 Nov 2012 #5
well keep your fingers crossed n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #6
Hamas is part of the PA, and Gaza is part of Palestine Scootaloo Nov 2012 #8
The UN bid was made by the PLO not the PA. nt King_David Nov 2012 #11
well for one that posts here so often I am surprised you do not understand what the PLO and PA are azurnoir Nov 2012 #24
PA includes Hamas in legislature King_David Nov 2012 #27
no Hamas has not been part of the PA since June of 2007 azurnoir Nov 2012 #29
Legally yes Hamas is a part of it , King_David Nov 2012 #30
no Hamas is not part of the PA legally or otherwise that's what azurnoir Nov 2012 #31
I guess just posting on an internet forum is not enough, King_David Nov 2012 #32
lol no Hamas is not part of the PA at the current time azurnoir Nov 2012 #34
Sigh , King_David Nov 2012 #37
Abbas and Hamas are locked in a violent struggle hack89 Nov 2012 #12
no Hamas is not part of the PA at least not since June of 2007 azurnoir Nov 2012 #25
Actually, Dave is right on this (I know, it's wild!) Scootaloo Nov 2012 #39
Ha ha King_David Nov 2012 #44
lol team mates eh? but still here it is from a source you would trust azurnoir Nov 2012 #57
well it seems odd but a couple of years back when it suited the needs at the time azurnoir Nov 2012 #56
I don't usually stop over to this group, but I just wanted to Skidmore Nov 2012 #7
Because it recognizes Palestine as a state without forcing it to give handouts to Israel Scootaloo Nov 2012 #9
A Zionist's wet dream KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #10
Sounds familiar , heard this before : King_David Nov 2012 #13
Not all jews are Zionists, Thank God. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #14
Why do you repeatedly put "Jews" in lowercase? oberliner Nov 2012 #16
Your screed is irrelevant and BS , if you talk about Zionists as a "people" King_David Nov 2012 #17
Not all Zionists are Jews. This isn't a complicated point, you know? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #18
No it's you who don't get it, King_David Nov 2012 #19
Le Sigh. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #21
Really? ''I'm not talking about them as a PEOPLE'' King_David Nov 2012 #22
Do you make it a habit of twisting people's words? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #28
'And we're done. ' King_David Nov 2012 #33
King Dave believes he has authority to declare people non-Jews Scootaloo Nov 2012 #40
This shit needs to stop... shira Nov 2012 #42
Well, here he is feeling he has authority to declare Hassidics non-Jews; Scootaloo Nov 2012 #46
You do know the difference between Hassidic Jews in general King_David Nov 2012 #48
Oh, I know. But you still lack any authority to question their Jewishness Scootaloo Nov 2012 #49
How did I do that? King_David Nov 2012 #53
Seriously? The Neturei Karta are considered whackadoodles by Hassids. shira Nov 2012 #59
And that's a fair argument to make, Shira Scootaloo Dec 2012 #74
Hypocrisy, thy name is... shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #104
Here is your proof, or at least a pointer........ kayecy Dec 2012 #106
I hate Arabs ? King_David Nov 2012 #47
I meant "Israel Supporters" in general Scootaloo Nov 2012 #50
Go for it, King_David Nov 2012 #51
Sure thing Scootaloo Nov 2012 #52
I had a 3 month fling with an Arab dude 2 years ago... King_David Nov 2012 #54
Actually yes, that is pretty much the same thing. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #75
Apology accepted, King_David Dec 2012 #77
Jews who are zionist or at least sympathetic to Israel are by far..... shira Nov 2012 #38
Lines that make me go hmmm... Scootaloo Nov 2012 #41
Riiiiiight. Want to back that claim up? shira Nov 2012 #43
I would respond by pointing out you're full of shit. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #45
Scootaloo, you are impressive! KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #60
"I've never seen such a thorough dragging on DU. " King_David Nov 2012 #65
Yes, you're so right. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #69
Well that's my response to your accusations shira Nov 2012 #63
I'm a zionist Jew ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #78
What ignorant bloody crap. aquart Dec 2012 #76
Actually, her description doesn't even include all Zionists. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #62
Who cares? She described Zionists as " bloodthirsty " King_David Nov 2012 #67
I'm not actually defending her, by the way. Ken Burch Dec 2012 #71
good King_David Dec 2012 #72
Do you understand the history at all behind the Zionist movement? oberliner Nov 2012 #15
Sure. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #20
Lot of bullshit in that response shira Nov 2012 #35
Cut and paste KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #61
Translated: You got nothing. Typical. n/t shira Nov 2012 #64
So tedious. *yawn* KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #66
"You've used that recycled mess of a youtube video how many times now"? shira Nov 2012 #68
It's the go to video with you lot. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #70
Here's the problem with folks like yourself... shira Dec 2012 #80
*sigh* Neverending... blah with you. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #95
You are justifying terror (Palestinian so-called resistance / war crimes) vs. innocents shira Dec 2012 #97
Your post Title is utter BULLCRAP. Just so ya know. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #98
No,it's not. Here's the proof.... shira Dec 2012 #99
You are a certified FLOP. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #100
Ad hominems are about all you've got. shira Dec 2012 #101
so IOW Israel is not responsible for its own actions azurnoir Dec 2012 #102
Geneva Law says the party shielding themselves is responsible for their deaths... shira Dec 2012 #103
well then in that case then Jerusalem Dimona and Tel Aviv azurnoir Dec 2012 #105
Jerusalem & Tel Aviv are legit targets......why? shira Dec 2012 #107
all three have military/government targets azurnoir Dec 2012 #109
More Pro-Israeli-Terrorism cheerleading from you. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #108
Kimono, do you agree it's a war crime for Hamas to shield themselves.... shira Dec 2012 #110
Hamas' methods of warfare are completely WRONG KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #111
But Hamas is not shielding themselves & victimizing Palestinians in your view? shira Dec 2012 #113
They do bare blame. They are a f***ing terrorist group! KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #114
They bear the blame due to shielding, correct? When the IDF targets Hamas.... shira Dec 2012 #115
Because an independent Palestine would be armed and able to defend its land and people Recursion Nov 2012 #36
An armed Palestine would be reduced to smoking rubble hack89 Dec 2012 #81
A legitimized Hizballah did pretty well Recursion Dec 2012 #82
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #83
Racism doesn't help Recursion Dec 2012 #84
Hamas does not represent the majority of Palestinians hack89 Dec 2012 #85
So you just pretend they didn't stop launching rockets for years? Recursion Dec 2012 #86
And once they acquired more powerful weapons they started again. hack89 Dec 2012 #87
Calling the capture of POWs "kidnapping" is kind of silly, but OK Recursion Dec 2012 #88
POWs implies war - is Hamas waging war against Israel? nt hack89 Dec 2012 #89
Yes. Blockades are acts of war, too. They are at war. (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #91
So then let them fight it out. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #93
The blockade began because the rockets never completely stopped. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #90
I have a bridge to sell you (nt) Recursion Dec 2012 #92
You just said that Hamas is waging war against Israel hack89 Dec 2012 #94
Are you serious? Shaktimaan Dec 2012 #112
Hizballah did not do very well by any military standard. Dick Dastardly Dec 2012 #116
Three cheers for Palestine! R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #23
Now if they could only have a homeland! Walk away Nov 2012 #26
seems like some here are tasting the grapes and finding quite sour n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #58
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. holdencaufield Dec 2012 #73
The US supports Israel at the UNGA but then gets kicked in the teeth....... kayecy Dec 2012 #79
Netanyahu needs to go oberliner Dec 2012 #96
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