Israel/Palestine

shira

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110. Kimono, do you agree it's a war crime for Hamas to shield themselves....

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:28 PM

Dec 2012

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...among civilians, and shoot rockets from densely populated neighborhoods?

The Geneva Convention states when a party does that, it's not just a war crime but that civilian casualties as a result of shielding is, in this case, Hamas' fault.

Do you disagree, and if so, why?

I'd say that if you disagree and wish to put 100% of the blame on Israel when International Law states otherwise is your attempt to run interference for Hamas, giving them the green light to victimize Palestinians more as they use them as shields. This is beyond deplorable if this depraved view is in fact what you believe. How would I be wrong?

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Palestinians win upgraded UN status by wide margin [View all] Scurrilous Nov 2012 OP

It's about time they had that status. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1

yep K&R azurnoir Nov 2012 #2

The only appropriate move, really... regnaD kciN Nov 2012 #3

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Agreed Lithos Nov 2012 #55

This poses a huge risk for the Palestinians hack89 Nov 2012 #5

well keep your fingers crossed n/t azurnoir Nov 2012 #6

Hamas is part of the PA, and Gaza is part of Palestine Scootaloo Nov 2012 #8

The UN bid was made by the PLO not the PA. nt King_David Nov 2012 #11

well for one that posts here so often I am surprised you do not understand what the PLO and PA are azurnoir Nov 2012 #24

PA includes Hamas in legislature King_David Nov 2012 #27

no Hamas has not been part of the PA since June of 2007 azurnoir Nov 2012 #29

Legally yes Hamas is a part of it , King_David Nov 2012 #30

no Hamas is not part of the PA legally or otherwise that's what azurnoir Nov 2012 #31

I guess just posting on an internet forum is not enough, King_David Nov 2012 #32

lol no Hamas is not part of the PA at the current time azurnoir Nov 2012 #34

Sigh , King_David Nov 2012 #37

Abbas and Hamas are locked in a violent struggle hack89 Nov 2012 #12

no Hamas is not part of the PA at least not since June of 2007 azurnoir Nov 2012 #25

Actually, Dave is right on this (I know, it's wild!) Scootaloo Nov 2012 #39

Ha ha King_David Nov 2012 #44

lol team mates eh? but still here it is from a source you would trust azurnoir Nov 2012 #57

well it seems odd but a couple of years back when it suited the needs at the time azurnoir Nov 2012 #56

I don't usually stop over to this group, but I just wanted to Skidmore Nov 2012 #7

Because it recognizes Palestine as a state without forcing it to give handouts to Israel Scootaloo Nov 2012 #9

A Zionist's wet dream KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #10

Sounds familiar , heard this before : King_David Nov 2012 #13

Not all jews are Zionists, Thank God. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #14

Why do you repeatedly put "Jews" in lowercase? oberliner Nov 2012 #16

Your screed is irrelevant and BS , if you talk about Zionists as a "people" King_David Nov 2012 #17

Not all Zionists are Jews. This isn't a complicated point, you know? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #18

No it's you who don't get it, King_David Nov 2012 #19

Le Sigh. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #21

Really? ''I'm not talking about them as a PEOPLE'' King_David Nov 2012 #22

Do you make it a habit of twisting people's words? KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #28

'And we're done. ' King_David Nov 2012 #33

King Dave believes he has authority to declare people non-Jews Scootaloo Nov 2012 #40

This shit needs to stop... shira Nov 2012 #42

Well, here he is feeling he has authority to declare Hassidics non-Jews; Scootaloo Nov 2012 #46

You do know the difference between Hassidic Jews in general King_David Nov 2012 #48

Oh, I know. But you still lack any authority to question their Jewishness Scootaloo Nov 2012 #49

How did I do that? King_David Nov 2012 #53

Seriously? The Neturei Karta are considered whackadoodles by Hassids. shira Nov 2012 #59

And that's a fair argument to make, Shira Scootaloo Dec 2012 #74

Hypocrisy, thy name is... shaayecanaan Dec 2012 #104

Here is your proof, or at least a pointer........ kayecy Dec 2012 #106

I hate Arabs ? King_David Nov 2012 #47

I meant "Israel Supporters" in general Scootaloo Nov 2012 #50

Go for it, King_David Nov 2012 #51

Sure thing Scootaloo Nov 2012 #52

I had a 3 month fling with an Arab dude 2 years ago... King_David Nov 2012 #54

Actually yes, that is pretty much the same thing. Scootaloo Dec 2012 #75

Apology accepted, King_David Dec 2012 #77

Jews who are zionist or at least sympathetic to Israel are by far..... shira Nov 2012 #38

Lines that make me go hmmm... Scootaloo Nov 2012 #41

Riiiiiight. Want to back that claim up? shira Nov 2012 #43

I would respond by pointing out you're full of shit. Scootaloo Nov 2012 #45

Scootaloo, you are impressive! KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #60

"I've never seen such a thorough dragging on DU. " King_David Nov 2012 #65

Yes, you're so right. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #69

Well that's my response to your accusations shira Nov 2012 #63

I'm a zionist Jew ... holdencaufield Dec 2012 #78

What ignorant bloody crap. aquart Dec 2012 #76

Actually, her description doesn't even include all Zionists. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #62

Who cares? She described Zionists as " bloodthirsty " King_David Nov 2012 #67

I'm not actually defending her, by the way. Ken Burch Nov 2012 #71

good King_David Nov 2012 #72

Do you understand the history at all behind the Zionist movement? oberliner Nov 2012 #15

Sure. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #20

Lot of bullshit in that response shira Nov 2012 #35

Cut and paste KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #61

Translated: You got nothing. Typical. n/t shira Nov 2012 #64

So tedious. *yawn* KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #66

"You've used that recycled mess of a youtube video how many times now"? shira Nov 2012 #68

It's the go to video with you lot. KimonoGirl Nov 2012 #70

Here's the problem with folks like yourself... shira Dec 2012 #80

*sigh* Neverending... blah with you. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #95

You are justifying terror (Palestinian so-called resistance / war crimes) vs. innocents shira Dec 2012 #97

Your post Title is utter BULLCRAP. Just so ya know. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #98

No,it's not. Here's the proof.... shira Dec 2012 #99

You are a certified FLOP. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #100

Ad hominems are about all you've got. shira Dec 2012 #101

so IOW Israel is not responsible for its own actions azurnoir Dec 2012 #102

Geneva Law says the party shielding themselves is responsible for their deaths... shira Dec 2012 #103

well then in that case then Jerusalem Dimona and Tel Aviv azurnoir Dec 2012 #105

Jerusalem & Tel Aviv are legit targets......why? shira Dec 2012 #107

all three have military/government targets azurnoir Dec 2012 #109

More Pro-Israeli-Terrorism cheerleading from you. KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #108

Kimono, do you agree it's a war crime for Hamas to shield themselves.... shira Dec 2012 #110

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They do bare blame. They are a f***ing terrorist group! KimonoGirl Dec 2012 #114

They bear the blame due to shielding, correct? When the IDF targets Hamas.... shira Dec 2012 #115

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