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shira

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25. I'm asking your view on BDS and you're deflecting. Is this difficult for you? n/t

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Thu Feb 14, 2013, 09:42 PM

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NY Times, MSNBC Whitewash BDS [View all] King_David Feb 2013 OP

Some must be really really scared that BDS will develop legs. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #1

I thought you were for peace and 2 states....not for 1-state and more war. n/t shira Feb 2013 #2

You see, Shira, it's the message that you should be concerned about and not the messenger. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #4

The message...? What, that BDS haters are gaining traction? And that's a good thing? shira Feb 2013 #12

Try rereading what I have written instead of having a meltdown. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #22

I'm asking your view on BDS and you're deflecting. Is this difficult for you? n/t shira Feb 2013 #25

Try rereading what I have written instead not reading it. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #27

Some thoughts on what you've written. aranthus Feb 2013 #31

Reply. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #32

Now I understand. aranthus Feb 2013 #35

No, you don't understand. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #38

So now I'm confused. aranthus Feb 2013 #40

I never wrote that I support "The BDS people." I may have posted one or two articles in I/P R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #41

RDO, we're all in favor of what you claim to be an advocate for..... shira Feb 2013 #44

Israel needs to follow what the UN has laid out with regards to resolutions, shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #46

Be specific. What does Israel need to do besides making offers for peace.... shira Feb 2013 #47

I was specific, Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #49

No you weren't. What exactly do you think the UN calls for WRT an end to the conflict? n/t shira Feb 2013 #52

Yes, Shira, I was. Israel must comply with UN resolutions R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #54

Let's start slow: Should Israel uproot all its settlements according to UN policy? shira Feb 2013 #58

Fibi Netanyahu. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #63

If "Fibi" torpedoed Oslo in 1997, how do you explain the Clinton Initiatives of 2001.... shira Feb 2013 #109

It's not if, my deluded friend. It simply is. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #120

Bibi didn't do anything in '97 that affected 2001 and 2008.... shira Feb 2013 #121

No, that's not a fact, R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #122

A fact for you is the Olmert map proposal to Abbas in 2008... shira Feb 2013 #124

Fibi Nutty is still PM, so I'll repost this showing his non worth. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #128

Looks like you're having a problem with simple logic. If Bibi was so successful in 1997.... shira Feb 2013 #130

Did he miss the memo? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #132

Free advice: Don't bring it here if you can't back it / justify it. shira Feb 2013 #133

I already did. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #134

You did? Where? Be specific. n/t shira Feb 2013 #136

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Right. No answer from you. Same old. Just feces against the wall. Laugh on! n/t shira Feb 2013 #138

Why? aranthus Feb 2013 #60

Why should Iran or North Korea? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #64

Why indeed? aranthus Feb 2013 #68

Why should anyone bend his or her values to what the UN says? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #92

None of that is a reason. aranthus Feb 2013 #96

"Well yes, but I'm pretty sure that Israel has a different understanding of what the UN is than you. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #98

So you don't have an answer. aranthus Feb 2013 #101

Have a nice night. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #103

They never have an answer. Must suck to never be able to defend one's position.... shira Feb 2013 #131

Stop projecting, Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #135

Like I wrote - you've got nothing. n/t shira Feb 2013 #139

Well, you've got a pretty good comedy routine there, Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #140

It's faith and emotion based thinking. aranthus Feb 2013 #141

True. Faith based emotional thinking cannot be reasoned with. n/t shira Feb 2013 #142

Not a Mistake, Misunderstanding, or Well-Intended Criticism But a Deliberate Campaign to Bash Israel shira Feb 2013 #3

"especially seeking to undermine its support in the Jewish community..." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #5

She is right nt King_David Feb 2013 #6

Are you seriously going to tell met that the Jewish community R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #7

Think 'The Jewish Community' as a whole would be more likely to agree with you or Shira ? nt King_David Feb 2013 #8

Shira was the one who posted that opinion piece, yet now R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #9

There are always some who are fooled, duped.... shira Feb 2013 #11

Israel demonizes itself unfortunately, R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #14

No it doesn't. And if you're interested in the truth, you wouldn't have the hardest time.... shira Feb 2013 #17

Great! Thank you! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #19

You're welcome. For what, I don't know b/c I wasn't answering a question of yours. n/t shira Feb 2013 #26

You just answered me and don't know it!? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #28

"U R Drunk ,you are an amateur "etc etc King_David Feb 2013 #30

Are you seriously going to deny there's a deliberate campaign to bash Israel... shira Feb 2013 #10

You mean the opinion piece you posted? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #13

Again, you refuse to answer the simplest questions. A good example of this bashing... shira Feb 2013 #15

Again, are you referring to the opinion piece you posted? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #16

Still deflecting. And quite poorly. Let me know when you wish to really discuss.... shira Feb 2013 #18

You posted to an opinion piece. Was I wrong? R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #20

I did do that. And I asked you a question. Why are you deflecting? n/t shira Feb 2013 #21

Thank you! R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #23

Are you going to answer my questions? n/t shira Feb 2013 #24

I see a lot of straw dogs in that opinion piece. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #29

You say you're against apartheid, colonialism of the W.Bank... shira Feb 2013 #33

We've been over this nonsense with you before. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #39

You're denying truth, fact, and reality. There were 2 real deals in 2001 and 2008... shira Feb 2013 #43

Yeah, reposting to your nonsense really is credible. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #45

As you can see, Abbas said Olmert's offer was serious in 2008 shira Feb 2013 #48

Strange that you would quote somebody that you revile... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #50

Not surprising you avoid a simple question, again. Why do you feel the need to conceal.... shira Feb 2013 #53

"You, OTOH, hide your beliefs as much as possible." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #55

So answer simple questions and don't run away. Deal? n/t shira Feb 2013 #56

Effective annexation: Israel now stamping passports of West Bank visitors �Judea and Samaria only� delrem Feb 2013 #34

Same question to you please. See #33. n/t shira Feb 2013 #36

still promoting Olmerts grand offer I see azurnoir Feb 2013 #37

Making up BS propaganda about Olmert's offer again? Why? You've been proven wrong... shira Feb 2013 #42

Making up so now both Haaretz and Ynet are lying well okay then if you say so n/t azurnoir Feb 2013 #65

Nah, just calling BS on your claim WRT Olmerts' so-called crappy offer. n/t shira Feb 2013 #105

They are not claims they are solid news items from Israeli sources azurnoir Feb 2013 #106

There's nothing in those articles claiming Olmert's offer was crap. shira Feb 2013 #108

no just that the rest of the Israeli government and its current PM would not honor Olmerts plan azurnoir Feb 2013 #111

The point is that Abbas rejected a good deal w/o a counter-offer. Do you really believe.... shira Feb 2013 #112

Israels go9vernment rejected the offer NOT as Olmert has stated Abbas did not reject his offer azurnoir Feb 2013 #113

No, Abbas did. And you're making excuses for him... shira Feb 2013 #115

so Olnert was lying is that what your stating here? azurnoir Feb 2013 #116

Now that you read it from Abbas, do you believe Olmert's offer was so bad that it didn't merit.... shira Feb 2013 #117

lol nice deflection n/t azurnoir Feb 2013 #118

No deflection. Olmert lying, about what? Abbas said it was a serious offer... shira Feb 2013 #119

BS - Not all Dems are in favor of Choice, but that doesn't mean the Democratic Party opposes it. leveymg Feb 2013 #51

All significant BDS-hole leaders are clear about 1-state based on full RoR. n/t shira Feb 2013 #57

Who are these "significant BDS leaders"? I'll give you a list twice as long of 2-staters. leveymg Feb 2013 #59

Omar Barghouti, Ali Abunimah, Mondolice, Ben White, Judith Butler shira Feb 2013 #61

The people driving the train. aranthus Feb 2013 #62

BDS delrem Feb 2013 #66

Let's be honest, and let's be clear. aranthus Feb 2013 #69

That's your interpretation, the source of your hysteria. So? delrem Feb 2013 #76

You're in denial. aranthus Feb 2013 #79

I don't deny anything. Read the bloody post that you responded to! n/t delrem Feb 2013 #80

Do you understand what denial is? aranthus Feb 2013 #82

"That's your interpretation, the source of your hysteria. So?" is an affirmation and a question. n/t delrem Feb 2013 #85

Merely saying that it's my interpretation, so? is a denial of the interpretation. aranthus Feb 2013 #87

You're being idiotic! Of course it's your interpretation! Why would I deny that? delrem Feb 2013 #88

You're being flip. It's a denial of the correctness of the interpretation. aranthus Feb 2013 #89

You want a standing ovation for posting your opinion? OK delrem Feb 2013 #91

I was hoping for a reasoned discussion. aranthus Feb 2013 #94

You don't think that your opinion has been "discussed" enough? n/t delrem Feb 2013 #99

You haven't discussed it at all. aranthus Feb 2013 #102

Are you happy to have voiced your opinion yet again? Here, another ovation for you: delrem Feb 2013 #107

See, that's denial. aranthus Feb 2013 #110

Glad to leave you satisfied. n/t delrem Feb 2013 #114

While there is no policy, most groups associated with BDS support the 2-state approach leveymg Feb 2013 #70

You can't honestly support RofR and honestly support a two state solution. aranthus Feb 2013 #78

Nobody has to accept the entire program, so there is no inherent contradiction. leveymg Feb 2013 #127

lol what is being studiously ignored is that the current occupation azurnoir Feb 2013 #72

It depends on who you are talking about. aranthus Feb 2013 #75

and what else is being oh so studiously ignored is that BDS azurnoir Feb 2013 #77

You missed my point. aranthus Feb 2013 #81

so your saying that BDS will, usurp the Israeli government and its democracy? azurnoir Feb 2013 #84

And here I thought that I was being clear. aranthus Feb 2013 #86

your post was really about Hamas taking over now that you've edited your post to include them :) azurnoir Feb 2013 #90

No, my post was about a Palestinian state that doesn't have to make peace with Israel. aranthus Feb 2013 #93

so now you claim a Palestinian state that is at war with Israel will be formed because of BDS? azurnoir Feb 2013 #95

No, that is the goal of BDS. aranthus Feb 2013 #97

in your scenario BDS would be the sole factor in the establisment of a Palestinian state azurnoir Feb 2013 #100

I'm examining what happens if BDS succeeds. aranthus Feb 2013 #104

J-Street condemns this attempt to stifle the Brooklyn College BDS event. leveymg Feb 2013 #67

There are two sets of people supporting BDS. aranthus Feb 2013 #71

"Useful fools" - do you realize how much you sound like Joseph McCarthy? leveymg Feb 2013 #74

More like Lenin. aranthus Feb 2013 #83

The Palestinians may be driving the train, but it's unlikely that they will be leveymg Feb 2013 #129

I find the premise of this thread fascinating azurnoir Feb 2013 #73

QED. Ha ha King_David Feb 2013 #123

well then what is it or just making a point about azurnoir Feb 2013 #125

Huh ? nt King_David Feb 2013 #126