Israel/Palestine

Violet_Crumble

(36,421 posts)

59. I'll repeat myself again seeing you ignored what I said...

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:18 PM

Feb 2013

Of course he's a warmongering butcher. Are you totally unaware of his history?

You must be to be sitting there getting offended because he got called exactly what he was...

-------------------------------

I'm taking it yr totally unaware of not really caring about his history, or you think he didn't exist and hadn't done anything bad prior to the massacre?

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

84 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Sharon warned Begin Israel �could be accused of genocide� [View all] Scurrilous Feb 2013 OP

Israel ? How about the actual perpetrators of the massacres? King_David Feb 2013 #1

Yeah, pass the buck as usual. Good work if you can get it. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #2

The Lebanese Christians militia had anything at all to do with the massacres ? King_David Feb 2013 #3

And this is the same tired argument that I had to entertain with R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #5

This is the same excuse you use to whitewash Palestinian oppression in Lebanon, Syria.... shira Feb 2013 #6

And right on cue the level of self righteousness climbs right off the charts. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #10

In your world, not only is Israel accountable for how others treat Palestinians.... shira Feb 2013 #11

You need to quit the nasty attacks on other DUers and start focusing on issues... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #14

No they don't oberliner Feb 2013 #19

I agree it's a pot meets kettle post. nt King_David Feb 2013 #21

Weird how certain DUers feel they can lecture others on how they have to behave oberliner Feb 2013 #24

It's an online game for some... shira Feb 2013 #25

Exactly ... King_David Feb 2013 #26

heh, the whole team comes to the rescue. delrem Feb 2013 #27

Yoo hoo! Shira? Where did you vanish to? Who's 'your lot'? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #36

It takes a great deal of energy to defend Sharon and express her deep concerns for the Tibetan Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #41

LOL. Things I learnt about Tibet today... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #50

I'm certain I know, say no more. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #58

Who did they remind you of ? nt King_David Feb 2013 #71

A few 'supporters' of Israel I've encountered n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #74

These are my words, Shira...bolstered by the Kahan Commission findings. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #20

I understand you want to hold Israel accountable. That's fair.... shira Feb 2013 #23

Everybody associated with this massacre should be tried for war crimes. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #28

But they haven't been. And you're voicing zero concern about that. shira Feb 2013 #29

"But they haven't been. And you're voicing zero concern about that." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #30

Just what are you accusing Sharon of? Before you answer, look at the Kahan findings.... shira Feb 2013 #31

Accusing? He didn't stop the massacre when he could of. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #32

You're assuming he knew in advance or knew once it was happening. You're wrong... shira Feb 2013 #33

: : :Sigh: : : R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #34

You called Sharon a butcher, trying to attribute maximum blame to him as an accessory... shira Feb 2013 #35

Sharon was a fucking butcher. And a warmongering criminal... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #44

Yes, Sharon is a butcher to you whether or not he was an accessory. shira Feb 2013 #46

Of course he's a warmongering butcher. Are you totally unaware of his history? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #48

You say he's a warmongering butcher, regardless whether or not he was an accessory? shira Feb 2013 #55

I'll repeat myself again seeing you ignored what I said... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #59

Wait - so he's a butcher because of something else, not Sabra/Shatilla? Is that yr view now? n/t shira Feb 2013 #60

Actually Sharon was given that title, but not by me. I guess he earned it. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #68

They just expressed their concern over it. Maybe you should read before hitting reply? n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #42

Have you even bothered reading the Kahan Report? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #38

Here are the findings, showing you're falsely accusing Sharon... shira Feb 2013 #43

Where's the link to where you got that from? The report found Sharon personally responsible... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #47

What I quoted is a C&P from the report. You'd know that if you read it. shira Feb 2013 #54

I knew that. You'd know that if you read my post. Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #65

If you read the report, you'd know your claims aren't supported by it. n/t shira Feb 2013 #69

Sorry, but the report did hold Sharon indirectly and personally responsible... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #76

Wow you remind me of my schoolteacher King_David Feb 2013 #72

That's rude and uncalled for, Dave. I thought you were into being civil... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #75

Why'd you leave out the link? He was found at least negligent. Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #52

I agree he was negligent. Do u think that makes him more guilty than the Phalange? n/t shira Feb 2013 #56

If you even imagine I'm going to discuss the meaning of negligence with you, forget it. Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #61

That was a really simple question. Is Sharon more guilty than the Phalange? Can't even answer.... shira Feb 2013 #64

ugh, you're the one who has difficulty with it. We're done here. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #67

well how could anyone blame Israel for what happened in an area under IDF control azurnoir Feb 2013 #4

A lot of people think Israel was more responsible than the actual perpetrators King_David Feb 2013 #7

No one is forgiving anyone here azurnoir Feb 2013 #8

There's an old Roman saying. "He who profits from a crime commits the crime." R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #9

No, that's what you mistakenly think 'a lot of people' think... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #15

Oh please explain Vi nt King_David Feb 2013 #22

I figured you had no idea Dave n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #40

Sharon wasn't accused by the Kahan Commission of being an accessory. But do go on.... shira Feb 2013 #37

He was held responsible by it for his part in it... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #39

He wasn't an accessory as you claimed. You were wrong. See #43 for Kahan findings. n/t shira Feb 2013 #45

Oh, so you agree that he was personally responsible then? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #49

Wait - hold up. You were wrong accusing Sharon of being an accessory. Right? n/t shira Feb 2013 #51

I'm quite happy to change it to him being personally responsible. So, do you agree with that? Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #53

So what is it? Do you believe he was personally responsible or indirectly responsible? n/t shira Feb 2013 #57

I asked you if you agreed with the Report's findings on Sharon.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #62

Of course I agree. I ask you b/c you're contradicting yourself. I want to know where you stand.... shira Feb 2013 #63

I'm not contradicting myself at all. I just told you what the Report finding was about Sharon... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #66

Do you believe Sharon is at least as guilty/responsible as the Phalange for SS? n/t shira Feb 2013 #70

Sharon was indirectly responsible and the Phalangists were directly responsible... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #73

S is trying desperately to move the topic away from Sharon R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #78

Sharon ... looked away. But only after firing illuminating flares... n/t delrem Feb 2013 #79

While misleading the Americans about what was happening. Shame. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #80

Isn't it wonderful how the term 'terrorists' is used in that snippet? n/t delrem Feb 2013 #81

Yep. Women and children. Terrorists. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #82

I figured I wouldn't be the only one to notice that... Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #83

I think that's called being an accessory azurnoir Feb 2013 #84

No complaint about the source? oberliner Feb 2013 #12

no why bother except to distract and there is no need for that azurnoir Feb 2013 #13

What are some stinky ones? oberliner Feb 2013 #16

I wasn't complete enough in my wording azurnoir Feb 2013 #17

OK oberliner Feb 2013 #18

Sharon is and has always been a pos. rateyes Feb 2013 #77