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Jefferson23

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5. This is a man who is advocating his version of democracy and hailing GW at the same time..priceless
Thu Mar 14, 2013, 07:12 PM
Mar 2013

Instead of promoting democratic values, the US administration promoted democratic structure. In other words, instead of promoting human rights, and women’s and minorities’ rights, the Americans supported holding elections.

They failed to understand that it would have been preferable to have a dictator who allowed the promotion of liberal values (against his will and under US pressure), than to have a democratic structure that was indirectly responsible for bringing Islamic extremists to power.

So says the bigot: To solve the conflict, we first need to understand the underlying issues. This is not a conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. The Palestinian- Israeli conflict is merely one front of a much wider international struggle – the struggle between the West and fundamentalist Islam. Islamic theology assumes that the world is split into two groups: Dar al- Islam (the House of Islam – the area of the world under Islamic rule) and Dar al-Harb (the House of war – countries where Muslim law is not in force).

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what a eloquent piece from Ronen Shoval who happens to head Im Tirzu azurnoir Mar 2013 #1
so you're against the proposed solution? n/t shira Mar 2013 #2
Solution?? lol Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #4
So you prefer Islamist totalitarian fascist rule to western democracy. shira Mar 2013 #6
The solution is ??? Come on, say it, shira. I mean you posted this as a tribute Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #14
The solution is in the article. Read it. Or shall I quote it? n/t shira Mar 2013 #30
I'm inviting you to tell us what that 'solution' is azurnoir Mar 2013 #7
Did you read the article? n/t shira Mar 2013 #9
yes but I want you an unbiased source to tell us okay n/t azurnoir Mar 2013 #11
What proposed solution, Shira? There is none in that piece of shit cali Mar 2013 #26
Work with moderates, seculars, liberals....from the ground up shira Mar 2013 #29
That is NOT what the article says. cali Mar 2013 #36
That's exactly what it says. Here it is... shira Mar 2013 #38
The "proposed solution" is predicated on a false assumption Scootaloo Mar 2013 #52
The false assumption is that the conflict is about the occupation, settlements.... shira Mar 2013 #54
Shira, I have trouble believing that you are actually that clueless Scootaloo Mar 2013 #56
Those are the facts. Here's Arafat on youtube (now that you mention it) shira Mar 2013 #58
Now you're just doing a gish gallop. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #61
I think it's a religious conflict steeped in antisemitic hatred.... shira Mar 2013 #62
Certainly is a shira post, lol: Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #3
A broken clock is right twice a day. Im Tirtsu nailed it. n/t shira Mar 2013 #10
You identify with this man and his message..I get that. No worries. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #13
Supporting tyrannical theocratic brutal dictatorships is wrong... shira Mar 2013 #31
Here's what you're for, Shira Scootaloo Mar 2013 #53
Yes, I just love Hagee. He's the coolest ever. Great liberal there! shira Mar 2013 #55
Well, by your increasingly low standards for "liberal," I believe it. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #57
You would love to believe it. n/t shira Mar 2013 #59
Support democracy by not supporting elections shaayecanaan Mar 2013 #16
Yep, Peace Later billboards to arrive soon. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #17
I'm trying to think of a good slogan... shaayecanaan Mar 2013 #18
I like them...probably best to start with the first one.. it's succinct and may I suggest Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #42
That made me Israeli Mar 2013 #19
his idea is not so new...promoting democracy from the "bottom up" pelsar Mar 2013 #21
The mistake is believing our friends here want genuine peace... shira Mar 2013 #22
Agreed JoDog Mar 2013 #27
What is a kangaroo court? shaayecanaan Mar 2013 #46
thats the occupation... pelsar Mar 2013 #47
So you're admitting that the Occupation courts are kangaroo courts? shaayecanaan Mar 2013 #49
you get the DU medal of year..... pelsar Mar 2013 #50
This is a man who is advocating his version of democracy and hailing GW at the same time..priceless Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #5
Hailing Bush? He wrote that GW was wrong to encourage elections. n/t shira Mar 2013 #8
Read your own OP, he makes himself clear how he see's Bush: Jefferson23 Mar 2013 #12
It was a nice speech, but poorly executed by neo-con policies. n/t shira Mar 2013 #32
This fellow is insane. delrem Mar 2013 #15
You want " A real solution to the conflict " shira Israeli Mar 2013 #20
So working to give all mideast people western democratic liberties & freedoms.... shira Mar 2013 #23
Shira Israeli Mar 2013 #24
How do you get genuine long-term peace with neighboring fascist regimes... shira Mar 2013 #33
Choose shira ... Israeli Mar 2013 #39
You're avoiding questions. Why? shira Mar 2013 #41
Good to know Israeli Mar 2013 #45
Thankyou azurnoir Mar 2013 #48
you are welcome Israeli Mar 2013 #63
why in your opinion did Olmerts 2008 offer not take hold azurnoir Mar 2013 #64
IMO Israeli Mar 2013 #65
there were other factors too azurnoir Mar 2013 #66
yes there were Israeli Mar 2013 #67
I guess you're not alone in that azurnoir Mar 2013 #68
Thanks for the link Israeli Mar 2013 #69
Yikes. What a despicable pile of dog shit. cali Mar 2013 #25
Well said cali. +1000. nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #28
You're once again confusing thuggish, tyrannical regimes w/ the people they oppress shira Mar 2013 #34
Oh no I'm not. Don't even begin to try that attack on me, honeypie. cali Mar 2013 #35
You're saying the article is unfairly critical of "the Palestinians" in general.... shira Mar 2013 #37
That you don't see the clear and ugly bigotry in this piece is pathetic cali Mar 2013 #40
I thnk I need it explained very clearly to me. shira Mar 2013 #44
Why is it that you always need to have bigotry explained to you when it's against Arabs/Muslims? Violet_Crumble Mar 2013 #70
You didn't answer the question I was asking Cali... shira Mar 2013 #71
Good show cali azurnoir Mar 2013 #43
Who wrote this? Samuel Huntington? Bernard Lewis? Deep13 Mar 2013 #51
The problem is that Israel is Jewish. aranthus Mar 2013 #60
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