Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
2. Thanks shira your OP here illustrates this oh so well
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 05:28 PM
Apr 2013

What do 'pro-Israel' image-mongers actually stand for?
So that’s what this is all about? The conversation over Israel has levitated from policy itself (like the occupation, stupid) to the meta-argument over whether Israel’s image is fairly or unfairly portrayed, to the meta-meta (uber-meta? meta squared?) conversation of whether the pro-Israel camp (a flawed euphemism for pro-occupation) is fairly or unfairly portrayed by the liberal camp, and whether those liberals are fairly or unfairly being called anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, Iran-loving and by association, nuclear-destruction-second-Holocaust-of-Israel extra-terrestrials (all but the final moniker is a paraphrase of Block’s quote in the article – but trust me, it’s there by implication).

Although I work on campaigns for a living, in which images and communications are integral to the effort to connect elites with the public, the question of imaging Israel has gone far, far too far.

I dare each camp to say what it really stands for regarding Israel, and while we’re at it, for the Palestinians too – since Israel does in fact control them. Specifically, I dare the other side to stop trying to distract the conversation, along with millions and millions of dollars, by mumbling about meta-meta. I’ll start! Here’s what I stand for: ending the occupation, preserving and salvaging Israel’s democracy, equality and human rights in every society where I can have an influence. That means mainly in Israel, but since I view Israelis and Palestinians as intertwined under any circumstances, I feel somewhat responsible for both.

I dare the pro-Israel camp to say what it stands for. Members of that camp have created a wildly polarized, self-important discourse (after meeting one recently, he tweeted his surprise to find that I was not a “bat-shit crazy leftie”); so I would have to guess that they are diametrically opposed to everything I believe. That makes the “pro-Israel” camp pro-occupation, anti-democracy, anti-equality, for a pre-emptive strike on Iran even if it happens unilaterally and the Middle East becomes Armageddon. Go on guys, say what you really think: I dare you. And if you can’t, then spend those dollars on some starving people.

http://972mag.com/what-do-pro-israel-image-mongers-actually-stand-for/68549/


1

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

One of the fascinating things about the Israeli media is that both sides get to post their views ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #1
Well, we do get two extreme "news" channels Riftaxe Apr 2013 #27
When in DC I would read about events I had been at in the WashPost and WashTimes ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #28
Thanks shira your OP here illustrates this oh so well azurnoir Apr 2013 #2
Criticize, don't demonize, don't defame, don't slander, don't hate. n/t shira Apr 2013 #3
yes but **cough** someone here does not seem to recognize the diffrerence azurnoir Apr 2013 #4
The articles I post are honest and accurate.... shira Apr 2013 #5
lol Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #6
What do u think of the OP? Did Amira Hass go too far in your opinion? n/t shira Apr 2013 #7
Your OP does not provide a link to the article itself, no surprise...just like Fox News. Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #8
972 must be like Fox News too....similar article with link to Haaretz shira Apr 2013 #10
here is a snip from the Ha'aretz article IMO Haas was honest if that means going too far azurnoir Apr 2013 #11
what else do Palestinians have a "right" to do besides throwing rocks? shira Apr 2013 #12
it was drawn in Hass's article she outlined a number of methods azurnoir Apr 2013 #13
So stop pretending you're against violence and killing, which happens w/ stoning.... shira Apr 2013 #14
Complete horse shit accusations. Rock throwing freaks you out, the occupation to continue to secure Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #16
You're for violent resistance vs. civilians, i.e. war crimes. shira Apr 2013 #17
you could not possibly have posted that for my benefit azurnoir Apr 2013 #20
The J14 protest, just like PeaceNow rallies are non-violent. shira Apr 2013 #25
you were just shown that the J14 protests were indeed violent azurnoir Apr 2013 #35
No, 972 is NOT like Fox News, this OP, NOT YOURS, has a link directly to the Harretz article.. Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #15
What she wrote is gross and you defend it.... shira Apr 2013 #18
I do realize Ms Hass has been a target of the 'ProIsrael' community for quite sometime now azurnoir Apr 2013 #21
OMG, did she really say THAT! WOW. Jefferson23 Apr 2013 #22
Yeah, it's so bad you won't defend it.... shira Apr 2013 #23
OMG she said could rather than should azurnoir Apr 2013 #34
Honest and accurate, even if you can only pull one sentence out of a whole article R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #19
So you believe an article is honest and accurate if it contains some truths.... shira Apr 2013 #24
You use EoZ in your posts, but claim that what you post is R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #30
I think I've used EoZ no more than 1-2 times ever here.... shira Apr 2013 #31
Ynet is garbage? Really? Do go on. R. Daneel Olivaw Apr 2013 #32
Pro Israel monger checking in! Riftaxe Apr 2013 #29
first off what religion would I supposedly be attacking you on ? azurnoir Apr 2013 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author shira Apr 2013 #9
I am getting on in my years, Riftaxe Apr 2013 #26
Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Israel/Palestine»Mideast: Haaretz justifie...»Reply #2