Israel/Palestine

bravenak

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132. I already stated my position as an expert on racism. Having actually experienced it.

Thu Apr 25, 2013, 08:34 PM

Apr 2013

I said that I would point out on this American site that there was a lotta racist statements being made. Where do you live nosey parker?
An American can't have an opinion?
But we can pay for Iron dome batteries, though right?
Are you calling me a liar holdencaufield?
I met my Palestinian homegirl while I was working at Frisky Kitty strip club. The owner was nice too he was from Lebanon. This was when I lived in Hollywood, so it was about 8 years ago, but they're still on my Facebook.
Think black people can't have a Palestinian friend?
I mean I never slipped inside of her skin, and experienced her life, but that would be impossible.
Let me tell you something about me holdencaufield, I have experience. I have lived. And I can see through you.
Never said I was an expert on gaza, you damn sure ain't either.
Are you trying to mock me?
Are you male and appear to be white?
I can usually tell.
Cause you're talking down to me.

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For Palestinians, human rights begin at home [View all] shira Apr 2013 OP

Ridiculous. What a terrible article. So racist, pals bad, Israelis good! Blah,blah,blah. bravenak Apr 2013 #1

When u see Hamas and the PLO as victims & not oppressors.... shira Apr 2013 #4

ah I see more Peace Later how much later shira? azurnoir Apr 2013 #6

Maybe it's time your friends in Palestine call off the war... shira Apr 2013 #9

Palestinians came to grips long ago and on November 29 2012 the UNGA azurnoir Apr 2013 #11

The PLO & Hamas are still @ war vs. Jewish Apes and Pigs... shira Apr 2013 #21

aha yep they want it all and so does Israel but guess what no one is getting it "all:" azurnoir Apr 2013 #24

Israel has offered while the Palestinians have rejected 2 states each time. shira Apr 2013 #26

Did I ever say I supported anybody? bravenak Apr 2013 #13

The PLO & Hamas are not victims. Understand? shira Apr 2013 #23

I never said they were victims. Show me where I said Hamas are victims or the PLO. bravenak Apr 2013 #30

They're oppressors, aren't they? Do we agree on that? shira Apr 2013 #31

I will concede to you that I do not agree with their methods. Violence is oppressive, so yes. bravenak Apr 2013 #32

Racist comments? Shaktimaan Apr 2013 #22

There were only 2 when I wrote that. Loren Griffith and kjell Amundsen . bravenak Apr 2013 #28

actually i would call u the racist.... pelsar Apr 2013 #33

Call me what you will. bravenak Apr 2013 #34

He's saying "the Jews" (his words) are superior to Palestinians. delrem Apr 2013 #35

That's what I thought he was saying. bravenak Apr 2013 #36

Yes, and as you see, there's no shame. delrem Apr 2013 #46

You mean no shame when you have to misrepresent your opponents' views... shira Apr 2013 #60

You seem upset that pelsar made it all about "The Jews", shira. I don't blame you. nt delrem Apr 2013 #65

You don't seem willing or capable of discussing what Pelsar actually wrote about. n/t shira Apr 2013 #66

I don't want to discuss "The Jews", shira. nt delrem Apr 2013 #67

Where did Pelsar talk about Jews being superior to Palestinians.... shira Apr 2013 #68

perhaps you and pelsar should take your talk about "the Jews" to PMing? delrem Apr 2013 #69

Not sure where your going with this, King_David Apr 2013 #89

Since pelsar dropped to shira, and shira is dropping to you, fo with the tag-teaming. David. delrem Apr 2013 #91

Was just wondering, King_David Apr 2013 #92

OK Dave. Keep on wondering then. sheeee delrem Apr 2013 #98

no i'm saying you have lower expectation for the Palestinians... pelsar Apr 2013 #39

You are saying exactly what I said you are saying. It has nothing to do with "expectations". delrem Apr 2013 #41

the opposite... pelsar Apr 2013 #42

that is disgusting. nt delrem Apr 2013 #43

i agree... pelsar Apr 2013 #45

Yes delrem, your view is disgusting and racist. So since you cannot defend it.... shira Apr 2013 #51

and i was clarifying.... pelsar Apr 2013 #44

You must be sleepy. bravenak Apr 2013 #47

chose a racist govt? pelsar Apr 2013 #48

Once again you are rambling. bravenak Apr 2013 #79

so if they "choose"..... pelsar Apr 2013 #101

I'll let you know when they get there. bravenak Apr 2013 #104

its a question of principle pelsar Apr 2013 #106

I don't defend everyone's choices. bravenak Apr 2013 #128

thats a really vague simplistic response.. how about getting real now pelsar Apr 2013 #159

a question here pelsar have you personally experienced racism? azurnoir Apr 2013 #80

very little.... pelsar Apr 2013 #102

so were you a witness a victim or azurnoir Apr 2013 #103

well you get a short story... pelsar Apr 2013 #105

pelsar pleeeeese !! Israeli Apr 2013 #49

You don't get it. Replacing Israel with Hamas or the PLO is just another form.... shira Apr 2013 #50

you talking to me shira ?? !! Israeli Apr 2013 #52

Yes, I am. And I answer all your questions. You conveniently ignore mine. shira Apr 2013 #53

you do ? Israeli Apr 2013 #55

Was there a question you asked me in that post? Let me know... shira Apr 2013 #58

you can call us anti-zionists Israeli Apr 2013 #61

The Western Wall is in West Jerusalem? oberliner Apr 2013 #63

its a compromise oberliner Israeli Apr 2013 #107

Makes sense oberliner Apr 2013 #109

its not in West Jerusalem Israeli Apr 2013 #110

That is my point oberliner Apr 2013 #111

Again you didn't answer my question about refugees. Why? shira Apr 2013 #64

I never said ... Israeli Apr 2013 #100

Can u please answer my question about refugees? shira Apr 2013 #112

obviously you cant read english shira Israeli Apr 2013 #114

Avnery says 50K per year for 10 years is reasonable.... shira Apr 2013 #115

That sounds reasonable. bravenak Apr 2013 #160

Each refugee doesn't get a choice when only 10% max are allowed RoR. shira Apr 2013 #163

Life ain't been fair so far. bravenak Apr 2013 #164

Gush-Shalom's proposal is unworkable. They should put something out about 50K returning.... shira Apr 2013 #165

They're being used by both sides. bravenak Apr 2013 #166

The world has failed them, deliberately so... shira Apr 2013 #167

You cannot displace people, remove them and forget about them. bravenak Apr 2013 #168

Do you realize there were 10's of millions of refugees back in the 1940's? shira Apr 2013 #169

That has to be the most ridiculous statement on the planet. Congratulations. delrem Apr 2013 #170

You should read the article. Let me know what you think once you do. n/t shira Apr 2013 #171

how did you manage Israeli Apr 2013 #56

Huh? I have no idea what you're talking about. n/t shira Apr 2013 #59

water is no longer the issue.....the desalination plants in israel. pelsar Apr 2013 #62

In no way what you now say Israeli Apr 2013 #108

Israel under British occupation is a lot different than Palestine under Israel occupation muxin Apr 2013 #119

What a load of crap muxin Apr 2013 #2

Different day, same crap! bravenak Apr 2013 #3

Do you have any idea what it is to live under thugs like Hamas in Gaza? shira Apr 2013 #5

do you any idea of what it's like to never know when your house will be raided azurnoir Apr 2013 #7

That wouldn't be happening if folks like yourself weren't cheering on... shira Apr 2013 #8

back up your fake accusation show proof for once !!!!! azurnoir Apr 2013 #10

Nothing fake about yr support of rock-throwing minors shira Apr 2013 #27

Post it baby post it :) azurnoir Apr 2013 #37

I posted your support of full RoR as you requested. This is all a game to you... shira Apr 2013 #54

there was nothing posted except your own claims azurnoir Apr 2013 #71

Are you living in gaza? bravenak Apr 2013 #12

I am very sorry for what has happened to you in our country GeoWilliam750 Apr 2013 #14

I believe it happened to make me tough. And I am. bravenak Apr 2013 #16

Isn't it wonderful? GeoWilliam750 Apr 2013 #17

Yes, exactly! It was nice to be the recipient of the good change. bravenak Apr 2013 #18

+1 azurnoir Apr 2013 #15

"One of my best friends escaped Gaza as a child." oberliner Apr 2013 #20

She had family in the US, I don't know why but they were granted asylum here. bravenak Apr 2013 #25

"Are you living in gaza?" holdencaufield Apr 2013 #117

I already said where I live. bravenak Apr 2013 #126

So what makes you ... holdencaufield Apr 2013 #131

I already stated my position as an expert on racism. Having actually experienced it. bravenak Apr 2013 #132

"I met my Palestinian homegirl while I was working at Frisky Kitty strip club" holdencaufield Apr 2013 #133

We would have taken all of your money. bravenak Apr 2013 #135

Slame a slut?! holdencaufield Apr 2013 #136

What is slaming? bravenak Apr 2013 #137

"experiencing racism in the USA makes me an expert on racism" holdencaufield Apr 2013 #139

Oh yes. Funny I don't remember saying it has. bravenak Apr 2013 #141

On the other hand -- the USA has a Black President holdencaufield Apr 2013 #142

A black president. It only took several centuries. bravenak Apr 2013 #143

"Am I wrong?" holdencaufield Apr 2013 #144

About the marriage thing? bravenak Apr 2013 #145

Yes ... you are wrong holdencaufield Apr 2013 #148

Thank you! bravenak Apr 2013 #149

You aren't wrong. Here's an article that explains one particular case. delrem Apr 2013 #150

No, you aren't wrong about "the marriage thing". delrem Apr 2013 #147

Thank you very much. I had heard about the Israeli version, but not studied it. bravenak Apr 2013 #151

You asked Shira 'are you living in Gaza' King_David Apr 2013 #138

She asked me a question first about living under Hamas. bravenak Apr 2013 #140

"I don't want to be an expert on gaza under occupation" holdencaufield Apr 2013 #146

Then they must have complete control of their airspace and lands. Didn't know they were so free! bravenak Apr 2013 #152

Hamas has forbidden any Jews from living in Gaza -- holdencaufield Apr 2013 #153

Israel would not mind Egypt opening up the border? bravenak Apr 2013 #155

Of course not ... why would they? holdencaufield Apr 2013 #156

Israeli border crossings? bravenak Apr 2013 #157

Yes, there are two between Israel and Gaza holdencaufield Apr 2013 #158

I just don't believe Israel has no control. bravenak Apr 2013 #162

You're not alone holdencaufield Apr 2013 #172

Do you have any idea what it is living under barricade while getting shot at like animals? muxin Apr 2013 #116

You didn't answer my question. shira Apr 2013 #121

I asked you first and No I don't believe they prefer to live under barricade muxin Apr 2013 #122

Of course Israel has killed more Palestinians than Hamas. Two sides are at war.... shira Apr 2013 #125

Propaganda? I showed you proof, do you have proof? muxin Apr 2013 #130

Over 600 Palestinians killed in internal clashes since 2006 oberliner Apr 2013 #19

So, just for the record. bravenak Apr 2013 #29

Just for the record azurnoir Apr 2013 #38

Just as I suspected. bravenak Apr 2013 #40

60 000 killed in Syria last year , King_David Apr 2013 #70

yes they were and that's a tragedy azurnoir Apr 2013 #73

It's amazing what type King_David Apr 2013 #74

Quote: It's amazing what type Of people obsess over this topic and what motivates them azurnoir Apr 2013 #75

Nope it's not necessary for me to do that, King_David Apr 2013 #76

why isn't it? it was your quote, why are you unwilling to back up your own words? azurnoir Apr 2013 #77

Yes King_David Apr 2013 #78

Nice "filler", Dave. delrem Apr 2013 #81

What does "Dave" signify? oberliner Apr 2013 #82

it's short for David azurnoir Apr 2013 #83

aw, I wanted to set him a puzzle, to while away his summer time... delrem Apr 2013 #85

Since I have told that dude he may not call me Dave King_David Apr 2013 #86

well I used to asked that people don't call me Az or usually AZ as if..... azurnoir Apr 2013 #93

I don't see anyone of us that have been around here for a while, King_David Apr 2013 #94

I'd call you "az" for short, like I'd call someone "Dave", delrem Apr 2013 #154

Good, I don't *want* you to understand. delrem Apr 2013 #84

Since I have told you before that you may not call me Dave King_David Apr 2013 #87

You demand that I address you with the honorific "King"? No, don't subscribe to aristocracy, David. delrem Apr 2013 #88

QED King_David Apr 2013 #90

Azurnoir once and only once asked us not to call her "Az" King_David Apr 2013 #95

Well, try to get over it. delrem Apr 2013 #96

QED King_David Apr 2013 #97

If that helps you get over it, poor fellow, go for it. delrem Apr 2013 #99

You must call him Your Majesty, or Your Grace I believe. bravenak Apr 2013 #161

Yes you should. bravenak Apr 2013 #127

Not enough people obsessed with that conflict King_David Apr 2013 #129

Your Majesty, Then why bring it up. bravenak Apr 2013 #134

Assisting the Palestinians in killing each other? oberliner Apr 2013 #57

Yes. bravenak Apr 2013 #113

And how many already killed by the Israel so far? muxin Apr 2013 #118

About 1500 oberliner Apr 2013 #120

Thank you, at least we know who's the greatest abuser of human rights now muxin Apr 2013 #123

Glad to help oberliner Apr 2013 #124

Sometimes several problems are occurring at the same time, and are not alternatives. LeftishBrit Apr 2013 #72