Israel/Palestine

shira

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5. It means those who say they're pro-Palestinian are not....

Mon May 20, 2013, 09:13 AM

May 2013

They're anti-Israel, they don't care about Palestinians (certainly not the ones mentioned in the OP - in Egypt) and they will never admit to obvious apartheid vs. Palestinians in Egypt, Lebanon, or elsewhere.

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As for no apartheid in Israel (but only in the territories), maybe you should tell your anti-zionist leftwing BDS friends who advocate alongside their fascist rightwing anti-Israel allies. They think all Israel is apartheid. But they're your friends. Rightwingers you say you're against....

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AP PHOTOS: Palestinians in Egypt exiled, forgotten [View all] shira May 2013 OP

The Palestinian plight is endless. jessie04 May 2013 #1

Can you expand on "the Arab-Israelis don't want any part of their brethren"? delrem May 2013 #2

Sure jessie04 May 2013 #3

Like you "feel for those Palestinians in gaza"? delrem May 2013 #7

That wasn't necessary. jessie04 May 2013 #12

your comment strikes me as something similar to azurnoir May 2013 #26

and that makes us okay ? Israeli May 2013 #4

It means those who say they're pro-Palestinian are not.... shira May 2013 #5

maybe ... Israeli May 2013 #6

looks like I'd make that shit list too... shira May 2013 #8

no, you don't nt shaayecanaan May 2013 #17

I support any 2 state deal that results in real peace.... shira May 2013 #20

So you support Mahmoud Abbas' peace plan? shaayecanaan May 2013 #57

There was no Mahmoud Abbas plan. We went over this make-believe invisible offer. n/t shira May 2013 #58

And this is why you're a liar shaayecanaan May 2013 #59

I don't recall seeing any of those articles before.... shira May 2013 #60

I linked to the NY Times article before and you ignored it... shaayecanaan May 2013 #61

And youre ignoring it again (nt) shaayecanaan May 2013 #68

There's no set offer there. Only negotiations and bargaining.... shira May 2013 #70

You're refusing to admit facts that even AIPAC's think tank have no problem with... shaayecanaan May 2013 #75

Assuming that's true, it seems reasonable. So why does Abbas deny it.... shira May 2013 #76

Well, just about everyone on the Israeli side confirms that it is true... shaayecanaan May 2013 #77

Counterpunch, wow oberliner May 2013 #9

was it ... Israeli May 2013 #10

She is an interesting character oberliner May 2013 #11

complete quote with link :) azurnoir May 2013 #15

That's not where I found the quote oberliner May 2013 #18

well thank you for azurnoir May 2013 #19

Who are you fooling? You would never support Meretz either. n/t shira May 2013 #21

I'm not Israeli nor am I trying to 'fool' anyone azurnoir May 2013 #23

The point is, you can't even agree with the most leftwing Israelis shira May 2013 #24

ah yet another 'factual' proclomation azurnoir May 2013 #25

Yeah, it is. Try denying it, like you did regarding yr support of RoR. n/t shira May 2013 #29

but shira I'm not denying anything as there is nothing to deny azurnoir May 2013 #31

So I'm right. Why not just admit it? shira May 2013 #32

becuae you are taking pokes at nothing you create the 'dilema' of your chosing azurnoir May 2013 #34

Why are you so afraid of engaging in real questions/answers? shira May 2013 #37

keep building that strawman there shira azurnoir May 2013 #38

Keep deflecting. So sorry the questions are too much for you. n/t shira May 2013 #40

shira if you look back I answered your 'inquiry' azurnoir May 2013 #41

No idea what you are talking about oberliner May 2013 #27

of course not :) azurnoir May 2013 #33

I appreciate the pleasant response oberliner May 2013 #73

The trouble is the word "worse" Scootaloo May 2013 #52

Actually it wasn't Scootaloo May 2013 #28

I get that you don't think much of liberal zionists... shira May 2013 #35

I don't think much of ANYONE who dry-humps sources like those I listed n/t Scootaloo May 2013 #42

I asked about the post-zionist left in Israel. Well? n/t shira May 2013 #44

And I was talking about Oberliner's lack of journalistic standards Scootaloo May 2013 #45

You brought up liberal zionists in your post to Oberliner... shira May 2013 #48

No, I believe post-zionists actually exist n/t Scootaloo May 2013 #49

You're still evading the question. n/t shira May 2013 #50

No, I just answered you Scootaloo May 2013 #53

Post-Zionists are for 2 states, against full RoR. shira Jun 2013 #78

Have you been on vacation, Shira? Scootaloo Jun 2013 #81

Post-Zionists aren't Zionists... shira Jun 2013 #82

Wait. Scootaloo Jun 2013 #83

Really there is only one source that is specifically not allowed and that is azurnoir May 2013 #36

Yes it was oberliner May 2013 #39

Well, I was going by the posted guidelines on the old site Scootaloo May 2013 #43

Fair enough oberliner May 2013 #74

Can't figure Meretz out... shira May 2013 #13

Meretz is definitely a Zionist party oberliner May 2013 #14

you cant figure Meretz out... Israeli May 2013 #16

I see it as a liberal zionist party, not post-zionist shira May 2013 #22

I love Oz and Yehoshua to Israeli May 2013 #69

The way I see it, if Oz & Yeshoshua like Meretz that's good enough for me... shira May 2013 #71

How do you feel seeing your fellow "leftists" here.... shira May 2013 #30

You know as much about "leftists" as you do about "Palestinians" delrem May 2013 #46

Your views are extremely rightwing, not left.... shira May 2013 #47

Q.E.D. delrem May 2013 #56

shira your awareness of what is Rightwing and what is Leftwing (progressive) is azurnoir May 2013 #63

Where would you put Ma'an News on that continuum? oberliner May 2013 #64

neither Right nor Left Ma'an presents news from a Palestinian POV azurnoir May 2013 #65

There are, of course, a wide range of Palestinian points of view. oberliner May 2013 #66

and I just answered you Ma'an presents a spectrum of Palestinian POV's azurnoir May 2013 #67

From far right-wing to far left-wing? oberliner May 2013 #72

So then... Shaktimaan May 2013 #62

+1 n/t shira Jun 2013 #79

why don't the Saudis or another one of the oil rich countries help out dlwickham May 2013 #51

they don't care as they view the refugees merely as political pawns. n/t shira May 2013 #54

Actually, the Saudis did have some telethon years ago jessie04 May 2013 #55

Palestinian refugees from Syria struggle for recognition in Egypt shira Jun 2013 #80