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oberliner

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39. Would you say they are a positive group that did a bad thing?

Thu Feb 2, 2012, 11:23 AM

Feb 2012

Taking the incident with respect to the Fogel massacre out of the equation momentarily, do you think they are a group that generally does good work? Do you support their mission statement? Are you critical of the group because of the Fogel-related behavior or do you oppose them regardless?

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Does helping Palestinians beautify the occupation? [View all] Jefferson23 Jan 2012 OP

Machsom Watch Radicals and Fogel Family Killers shira Jan 2012 #1

Oh goodie, more eye opening posts from you. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #2

Would it be eye opening to you if Machsom Watch.... shira Jan 2012 #4

Because I think it is mockable, that's why..and not worthy of more. Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #5

Oh yes, shoot the messenger. Here's the problem... shira Jan 2012 #6

For crying out loud, it seems you never read what you post. Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #7

Pot/Kettle. I linked you to a website that has this info. on it.... shira Jan 2012 #8

Yea, they're guilty of waiting, lol. Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #9

You're right. They are a terrible group. shira Jan 2012 #10

The point is, facts don't matter. Demonizing is the motivation... Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #11

What a load of crap... shira Jan 2012 #12

Ah so you don't constantly demonize pro-palestinian DUers? Violet_Crumble Jan 2012 #13

How do you define demonization? shira Jan 2012 #15

Clearly not the same as you do... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #16

Let's start with Karen Armstrong (edited near the end)... shira Feb 2012 #18

Well, I'll upgrade it from posts that are ignorant, to hardcore demonisation! Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #35

See #64 below. n/t shira Feb 2012 #65

lol, +1 Jefferson23 Jan 2012 #14

what becomes apparent here is that you hold the families of the 2 men convicted azurnoir Feb 2012 #20

See, now you're casting doubt as to whether the murderers were tried fairly... shira Feb 2012 #21

Oh yes they confessed didn't they? azurnoir Feb 2012 #22

Keep digging yourself deeper. This is fun... shira Feb 2012 #23

what's bad for you is that your Ha'aretz link does not contain the video azurnoir Feb 2012 #24

So what? How do you think Haaretz knew of the mom/aunt admitting she was proud? shira Feb 2012 #26

it was a phone call and there for not verifiable period nothing "slick" about it azurnoir Feb 2012 #27

Again, is there anyone credible (according to you) saying something's... shira Feb 2012 #29

your quite right shira this is fun lets take a look at the video shall we azurnoir Feb 2012 #25

So you now agree the Awarta cousins are indeed guilty, right? shira Feb 2012 #28

lol again shira ther is no need to 'deconstruct' anything it was a phone call azurnoir Feb 2012 #30

LOL! If you can't find any of your fellow pro-Palestinians... shira Feb 2012 #31

now I'm trying to change the subject? what? azurnoir Feb 2012 #32

Yep... shira Feb 2012 #33

No shira I was not changing the subject however Machsom Watchs visit with the Awad family was prior azurnoir Feb 2012 #34

Gosh, I gave you a chance to seriously answer a few questions and you blew it again... shira Feb 2012 #38

so Pajamas Media, Volokh Conspiracy, and Itamar Marcus are liberal not rightwing well ok then azurnoir Feb 2012 #41

Wow, way to avoid everything in that post! As predicted of course. n/t shira Feb 2012 #43

No need to avoid your post speaks for itself azurnoir Feb 2012 #45

"I guess we have different ideas about what is rightwing..." shira Feb 2012 #46

"the PA using children's blood as fertilizer" 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #51

Here's the video... shira Feb 2012 #54

My reaction is: 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #67

Wow, so it's figurative. The cognitive dissonance is strong around here... shira Feb 2012 #68

oh yet more right wing propaganda shira? azurnoir Feb 2012 #71

And yet another "rightwing" deflection.... shira Feb 2012 #74

yes I felt that vid deserved a prize azurnoir Feb 2012 #60

Israel/Palestine mikepaul Jan 2012 #3

Maschom Watch is a really great Israeli organisation that everyone should support... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #17

Why? Here's post #10 above... shira Feb 2012 #19

Why? Try reading the website to see why anyone should support the good work they do... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #36

So a website tells all, right? If I link you to ANY website that says they do good work... shira Feb 2012 #37

Would you say they are a positive group that did a bad thing? oberliner Feb 2012 #39

No, they're just another organization dedicated... shira Feb 2012 #40

well it has become obvious that someone here is dedicated to demonizing and delegitimizing azurnoir Feb 2012 #42

LOL! Still waiting for you to find fault with Machsom Watch... shira Feb 2012 #44

exactly you want me to condem Machsom Watch azurnoir Feb 2012 #47

They lied. Big time. You used their excuse that they "didn't know"... shira Feb 2012 #48

you already stated your case about Machsom Watch in comment #40 azurnoir Feb 2012 #49

In other words, you can't defend Machsom Watch. But we already knew that, didn't we? shira Feb 2012 #50

In other words I do not feel that Machsom Watch did anything that needs to be defended azurnoir Feb 2012 #52

You were duped and bought into their lie, that they didn't know. shira Feb 2012 #53

No I was not duped nor was I forgetful azurnoir Feb 2012 #62

In this case there's no reason not to believe they do good work... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #55

But the Fogel case is not good work. Not at all. shira Feb 2012 #56

OMG again but not even one of your replies has proven anything azurnoir Feb 2012 #57

Oh sure, nothing has been proven. Then why don't you have any rational answers.... shira Feb 2012 #58

Lets take a look at the events in Awarta azurnoir Feb 2012 #61

If consoling the mother was a good thing they're proud of, then why did MW lie? shira Feb 2012 #63

according to your links Machsom Watchs visit took place on the 4/7/11 azurnoir Feb 2012 #66

I'll have to do some research to find when the re-enactment of the crime scene was conducted shira Feb 2012 #69

I already posted a number of them and as the links show azurnoir Feb 2012 #70

I'm not the slightest bit interested in the unrelenting smear jobs... Violet_Crumble Feb 2012 #59

A smear job is unsubstantiated. The MW women made up an excuse to cover their asses... shira Feb 2012 #64

Interesting post attempting to demonize not just Islam but Christianity as well azurnoir Feb 2012 #72

Another deflection. Another new low for you... shira Feb 2012 #73

what exactly am I deflecting? azurnoir Feb 2012 #75

You deflect from any post written to you or to your colleagues here. shira Feb 2012 #76