Israel/Palestine

azurnoir

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63. so for an Arab citizen of Israel it's

Reply to shira (Reply #61)

Wed Jul 31, 2013, 06:49 PM

Jul 2013

Israel love it or leave it

wow coming to this group is like being in a time machine -back to 1960's

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The bane of Israel's existence [View all] Israeli Jul 2013 OP

Gideon Levy for one state shira Jul 2013 #1

you want a two state solution then its .... Israeli Jul 2013 #2

You post-zionists for 1-state can't have it both ways.... shira Jul 2013 #4

nice try American ... Israeli Jul 2013 #6

right...that's why you quote a 1-stater like Gideon Levy. n/t shira Jul 2013 #7

I like Gideon Levy shira ... Israeli Jul 2013 #9

Your fellow leftist friend is arguing for 1-state with me, below... shira Jul 2013 #11

because .... Israeli Jul 2013 #12

Typical. I didn't think you'd respond on 1 vs. 2 states.... shira Jul 2013 #13

Ah .. Barak's "Generous Offers" !! Israeli Jul 2013 #18

Yeah, the Clinton Initiatives @ Taba was very fair... shira Jul 2013 #19

been thru this with you already .... Israeli Jul 2013 #24

No, he just took a vacation rather than respond. LOL... shira Jul 2013 #27

I think its a shame ... Israeli Jul 2013 #33

I also think it's a shame as I too wish it were accepted & the conflict finished shira Jul 2013 #38

Here is the poster you're addressing going on about a future Palestinian State azurnoir Jul 2013 #30

azurnoir Israeli Jul 2013 #34

I know but the twists and turns that arebeing taken can be ummm interesting azurnoir Jul 2013 #35

I'm for a genuinely peaceful, more liberal Palestinian state alongside Israel shira Jul 2013 #39

ah shira a reminder azurnoir Jul 2013 #46

But unlike Abbas, neither I nor anyone else is calling for the expulsion.... shira Jul 2013 #47

you mean just like Israeli's live in Palestinian areas of the West Bank now ? azurnoir Jul 2013 #48

Whether Israelis or not. Jews should be able to buy & own land in the WB shira Jul 2013 #49

yes and I also recognized the what 100's, 10's, 1's, anyone? that have been executed under the law azurnoir Jul 2013 #50

That's the racist, apartheid Palestine you hypocritically support while bashing Israel... shira Jul 2013 #51

Thank you shira you make yourself very clear here azurnoir Jul 2013 #52

Depends on whether you're for genuine peace or just any kind... shira Jul 2013 #53

not any kind of peace but it must be an special kind of peace-again a reminder azurnoir Jul 2013 #54

I don't understand your point. Be more clear please? n/t shira Jul 2013 #55

well shira what's the difference between a 1 state solution azurnoir Jul 2013 #56

Uh....how about self-determination for both groups of people? shira Jul 2013 #59

as it is Israel can very easily vote against the wishes of its Arab population azurnoir Jul 2013 #60

And if the 20% don't like it & can do nothing to change things.... shira Jul 2013 #61

so for an Arab citizen of Israel it's azurnoir Jul 2013 #63

Jews would have the same choice within a future Palestine... shira Jul 2013 #64

except that the folks you're telling Israel love it or leave it azurnoir Aug 2013 #73

Same choice for Jews in a future Palestine. Love it or leave it.... shira Aug 2013 #74

so Israel will abandon it's Jewish citizens in Palestine? azurnoir Aug 2013 #75

Why are you so against Jews wishing to live in Palestine? shira Aug 2013 #76

don't want to answer tthe questions so instead you make azurnoir Aug 2013 #77

How would I know what Israel would do in the event citizenship was offered.... shira Aug 2013 #78

still making accusations I see the question of whether or not the settlers in Palestine azurnoir Aug 2013 #79

Your question only becomes relevant once Abbas says Jews are welcome.... shira Aug 2013 #81

Still don't want to answer I take it azurnoir Aug 2013 #82

How would I know what Israel would do if Abbas welcomed Jews to Palestine? shira Aug 2013 #83

Jordan's not willing shaayecanaan Aug 2013 #80

"The establishment of a Palestinian state was considered no less subversive..." Scootaloo Jul 2013 #3

You can't possibly believe a 1-state solution could work... shira Jul 2013 #5

Well, the two-state solution hasn't exactly produced any successes Scootaloo Jul 2013 #8

Because neither Hamas or Fatah is interested... shira Jul 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author Scootaloo Jul 2013 #14

You have no idea why I think so? You won't even try? n/t Scootaloo Jul 2013 #15

I honestly cannot think of 1 good reason for 1-state shira Jul 2013 #16

That's a pretty weak argument, Shira Scootaloo Jul 2013 #17

Look around the mideast today & what do you see? Religious strife, right? shira Jul 2013 #23

I see conflicts stemming from a wide variety of sources Scootaloo Jul 2013 #43

Abbas just took it up one notch, claiming no Jews allowed in future Palestine shira Jul 2013 #31

Might that because those Jews would also be considered citizens of Israel? delrem Jul 2013 #32

He meant that not one Jew would be allowed to live there. Plain and simple. shira Jul 2013 #42

No, not even Pamela Geller can get away with that! delrem Jul 2013 #57

There are no Jews in Jordan or Saudi Arabia either. You agree with that too? shira Jul 2013 #58

at what cost? pelsar Jul 2013 #36

Do you think I have a flowchart on my wall? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #40

no its just concept...and you've already judged the two state a failure pelsar Jul 2013 #44

You talk about your own self. The fact that you "can't get along". delrem Jul 2013 #20

But Israeli says she is against 1-state and supports two. We agree on that. shira Jul 2013 #21

Israeli's posts can't be reduced to nothing that way. delrem Jul 2013 #22

Then ask her here publicly. And you couldn't find one thing.... shira Jul 2013 #25

oh, fuck off. delrem Jul 2013 #26

See, you can't find one statement from the Arab Press.... shira Jul 2013 #28

Pamela, you suck. delrem Jul 2013 #29

hey shira ... Israeli Jul 2013 #37

So you're not against the settler version of 1-state? shira Jul 2013 #41

I'm against the settler version of anything shira . Israeli Jul 2013 #45

Do you prefer the PA/Hamas version of 1-state over the settler version? n/t shira Jul 2013 #62

Do I what ??? Israeli Aug 2013 #65

Don't backtrack now. You just said you're okay with 1-state if that comes to pass.... shira Aug 2013 #66

shira ... Israeli Aug 2013 #67

The BDS and 1-stater leftist friends of yours want Hamastine, 1-state shira Aug 2013 #68

thats a figment of your own imagination ..... Israeli Aug 2013 #69

under your statement sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #70

last time I was there was about ... Israeli Aug 2013 #71

But what about the Israelis sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #72

then talk to the Israelis that want to keep it ... Israeli Aug 2013 #84

You may be atheist sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #85

which part of the old city are you worried about ? Israeli Aug 2013 #86

I am worried that sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #87

which part of ... Israeli Aug 2013 #88

why don't you care sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #89

why do you use pre-1967 Jordan as a written in stone example of what an Arab nation would do? azurnoir Aug 2013 #90

The sites that I believe that you are talking about sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #91

Perhaps the UN did not live up to its 'obligations' because Israeli's murdered the UN negotiator? azurnoir Aug 2013 #92

why not leave that to the Israelis sabbat hunter Aug 2013 #93