Israel/Palestine

shira

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88. Whaa? The EU is currently boycotting settlements & occupied territory only in Israel....

Mon Dec 9, 2013, 07:19 PM

Dec 2013

...while it directly funds settlements in occupied Cyprus and voted for European nations to exploit natural resources in illegally Moroccan occupied Western Sahara.

Meanwhile, the US is trying to negotiate peace and has worked against bigoted efforts to isolate Israel.

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What is anti-Semitism? EU racism agency unable to define term [View all] shira Dec 2013 OP

Ben White leading the cartwheels at Electronic Intifada oberliner Dec 2013 #1

Except the "working definition" was never official in the first place... Scootaloo Dec 2013 #2

European countries don't need no definition King_David Dec 2013 #3

Must be rough for "anti-racists" who are unable to define antisemitism.... shira Dec 2013 #4

Here's the latest Roger Waters. Is this antisemitic or not? shira Dec 2013 #8

I say the first paragraph is mostly correct, and the second one is confused. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #15

Waters just vilified all Israeli leaders as Jewish supremacists.... shira Dec 2013 #22

No he didn't. Not even a little. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #29

He's saying these Jewish religious supremacists are the very same people.... shira Dec 2013 #33

What he's saying is plainly stated where he says it Scootaloo Dec 2013 #36

Typical. n/t shira Dec 2013 #37

Something we can agree on. n/t Scootaloo Dec 2013 #38

Again, here's where Waters generalizes.... shira Dec 2013 #53

Hard to "generalize" when speaking about something specific, Shira. Scootaloo Dec 2013 #54

And what's that specific thing he's speaking about? shira Dec 2013 #59

Do you read the stuff you quote? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #61

Obviously, you didn't read it... shira Dec 2013 #62

I'm denying that he's applying it to "all Jews" as you had claimed Scootaloo Dec 2013 #64

Come on...you deny there's any such thing as a genuinely liberal leftwing zionist.... shira Dec 2013 #65

You're right, I don't condemn shit that you've made up Scootaloo Dec 2013 #107

You can't even define Zionism correctly w/o assigning it evil motive... shira Dec 2013 #111

Oh boy. Ypu really want to have this talk, again? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #117

Jews have continuously lived in Israel for thousands of years.... shira Dec 2013 #121

A few things Shira... Scootaloo Dec 2013 #122

A few things.... shira Dec 2013 #133

To correct some of your numbers. aranthus Dec 2013 #123

And was this state was established by the inhabitants of the territory? Scootaloo Dec 2013 #125

But the situations aren't comparable. aranthus Dec 2013 #127

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Waters lied at the very least. There are no nutter supremacist Rabbis in the Knesset.... shira Dec 2013 #134

"Roger Waters is paraphrasing from Max Blumenthal's book" oberliner Dec 2013 #86

Haven't read it Scootaloo Dec 2013 #100

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The ruler of Qatar is a disgusting pig? oberliner Dec 2013 #6

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Look at #8 above. Antisemitic or not? n/t shira Dec 2013 #9

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Progressive anti-racists should care about antisemitism. shira Dec 2013 #13

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Those were your exact words oberliner Dec 2013 #10

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You use the word 'hasbara ' as if it is a dirty word. King_David Dec 2013 #16

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Clearly you need us LaHasbir lecha, King_David Dec 2013 #18

Psst! K-D, you're giving our secret hebrew codes away.... shira Dec 2013 #31

You're lying b/c your original claim is that Israeli law going back to 1948 guaranteed.... shira Dec 2013 #19

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Well derrr.....of course Israel is a Jewish state. But there's no guarantee... shira Dec 2013 #27

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Where does he say Israel guarantees a Jewish majority since way back in 1948? shira Dec 2013 #32

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You've read hasbara training pamphlets oberliner Dec 2013 #20

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Don't really know those posters very well oberliner Dec 2013 #57

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You know about the manuals too? Onoz!!!! shira Dec 2013 #76

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You're starting to remind me of back when Glenn Beck discovered Saul Alinsky WatermelonRat Dec 2013 #116

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The comparison isn't between the things themselves WatermelonRat Dec 2013 #129

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"Hasbara is a dirty, dirty business that you're involved in, oberliner" oberliner Dec 2013 #21

Did u get yr paycheck from Likud last week? I'm still waiting for mine. shira Dec 2013 #23

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My hasbara pager from Likud underground HQ alerted me to this thread.... shira Dec 2013 #28

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I have to admit, I have amusing images of you in the vein of 60's Batman Scootaloo Dec 2013 #55

How do u know that wasn't me delivering Bibi's Wile-E-Coyote bomb to the UN? n/t shira Dec 2013 #60

Your team will come around oberliner Dec 2013 #56

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What u see here, having each other's backs, is no different than the anti-racism.... shira Dec 2013 #79

Damn straight shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #96

I am trying to make a song and dance routine with my good friend Aharon Barak King_David Dec 2013 #34

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But unlike you, Barak never claimed Israel guarantees by law a Jewish majority.... shira Dec 2013 #69

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Ok oberliner Dec 2013 #58

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The term "anti-Semite" once included anti-Arabism. merrily Dec 2013 #35

It still should, as there is no real difference between the tropes of them Scootaloo Dec 2013 #40

One difference. Arabs could never have re-defined an English word successfully. merrily Dec 2013 #41

I'm not sure Shaktimaan Dec 2013 #128

Oh, please. merrily Dec 2013 #130

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? merrily Dec 2013 #43

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How does that relate to my simple statement that the term "anti-Semitism" used to include merrily Dec 2013 #103

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You are definitely allowed. I'm only trying to understand. merrily Dec 2013 #114

? King_David Dec 2013 #44

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Avatar King_David Dec 2013 #47

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When was that? aranthus Dec 2013 #102

Gideon Levy on Israel's claims of anti-Semitism ..... Israeli Dec 2013 #52

Difficult to take Gidein Levy seriously on any topic King_David Dec 2013 #63

I choose Gideon Levy on any topic over .... Israeli Dec 2013 #66

Well that hero of yours Gideon Levy could care less about American Jews, King_David Dec 2013 #67

Gideon Levy on American Jews ..... Israeli Dec 2013 #73

As I said , that dude is vey concerned with American Jews King_David Dec 2013 #80

Many King_David..... Israeli Dec 2013 #109

"We" prefer ? Ha ha ha King_David Dec 2013 #112

and you do ? Israeli Dec 2013 #113

Never claimed I did ..although it's my birthright King_David Dec 2013 #115

You choose lies and propaganda... shira Dec 2013 #68

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Dear shira : This Is What Anti-Semitism Means Israeli Dec 2013 #74

Although it shouldn't be antisemitic to oppose settlements in occupied territory.... shira Dec 2013 #77

so by those standards the current US administration must be antisemitic azurnoir Dec 2013 #85

Whaa? The EU is currently boycotting settlements & occupied territory only in Israel.... shira Dec 2013 #88

the US is inducing Israel to negotiate land it obviously considers its own without doing the same in azurnoir Dec 2013 #89

Except that's not what anyone is talking about oberliner Dec 2013 #78

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sure oberliner.... Israeli Dec 2013 #110

Anti-Semite means anti-Jew, in current usage. ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #82

Can one be against the existence of Italy and not be anti-Italian? aranthus Dec 2013 #83

quote from above comment "The Arab/Palestinian position is against Israel's existence" azurnoir Dec 2013 #84

Yes, that is their position. aranthus Dec 2013 #91

"They (Arabs) are prepared to make peace with "Israel," but not a Jewish state azurnoir Dec 2013 #99

No it isn't. aranthus Dec 2013 #118

so tell me do Native Americans accept that Europeans are in America by rights or superior arms azurnoir Dec 2013 #120

I don't know. aranthus Dec 2013 #124

Yes, one can be against the "existence" of Italy and not be anti-Italian. ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #87

Try telling that to an Italian. aranthus Dec 2013 #90

I agree that we usually cling very stongly to our thoughts and opinions. ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #92

No, we cling most strongly to them. aranthus Dec 2013 #93

Humans are mere animals. ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #94

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That's totally wrong. aranthus Dec 2013 #101

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"Israel is defined in several of its laws as a "Jewish and democratic state" (medina merrily Dec 2013 #104

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With the history Europe has they know damn well what it is in that connotation, against Jews period lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #126