Israel/Palestine

pelsar

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19. then feel free to explain.....

Sat Dec 14, 2013, 07:38 AM

Dec 2013

assuming your willing to lower yourself to explain to an 2nd class immigrant....

btw burg has the same stupid argument as the girl in the video..both believe in absolutes where the majority of us immigrant /sabra israelis believe in zionism in moderation and as flexible concept. (as did rabin)

seems to me you post zionist have to take a principled stand and say NO jews get to influence israel, not the good ones that you like and not the bad ones that you don't like.....stop using them for your own needs.

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This is huge: Swarthmore Hillel breaks with Israel policy [View all] Israeli Dec 2013 OP

Good for them...better late than never. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2013 #1

i'm confused... pelsar Dec 2013 #2

If your confused pelsar.... Israeli Dec 2013 #3

Burgs not here, you are..... pelsar Dec 2013 #7

Forget it. Our Israeli friend is too embarassed by her views to engage in a real discussion. n/t shira Dec 2013 #27

you seem sort of confused Avraham Burg is an Israeli Jew influencing American Jews azurnoir Dec 2013 #4

Burg? I asked Israeli... pelsar Dec 2013 #8

Huh? and Israeli has made it clear about what she thinks of American Jews who have azurnoir Dec 2013 #9

oh...i though her stance was on principle... pelsar Dec 2013 #10

regardless when it comes to American Jews and Israel azurnoir Dec 2013 #11

isn't that the argument? pelsar Dec 2013 #14

Its only part of the argument pelsar .... Israeli Dec 2013 #18

then feel free to explain..... pelsar Dec 2013 #19

Rabin is dead pelsar .... Israeli Dec 2013 #21

Rabin's death did not change everything... pelsar Dec 2013 #22

might not have changed everything for you ... Israeli Dec 2013 #23

the point is your blinded by your ideology... pelsar Dec 2013 #26

I was blind when I was a Zionist pelsar ... Israeli Dec 2013 #30

so you let some fanatic 'win' pelsar Dec 2013 #31

seriously pelsar ... Israeli Dec 2013 #55

Small point there Ken Burch Dec 2013 #41

Ken your way out of your league here..... pelsar Dec 2013 #44

thanks azurnoir.... Israeli Dec 2013 #12

That was painful the video anyway azurnoir Dec 2013 #15

yup ... Israeli Dec 2013 #16

........... azurnoir Dec 2013 #17

well i think.. pelsar Dec 2013 #20

Yeah, that was pretty bad. Team Demonization will use it to make sweeping generalizations.... shira Dec 2013 #25

Give it a rest. Criticing Israeli treatment of the Palestinians is not "demonization". Ken Burch Dec 2013 #43

Mixing a little truth with a lot of lies is demonization and hate speech meant to harm.... shira Dec 2013 #48

Roger Waters is NOT "my friend", and I hate what he said. He was wrong to say that. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #53

Alan Dershowitz is critical of the occupation... shira Dec 2013 #58

You sould look to who created the vidoes and stop blaming others for R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #50

well as I said it was a painful watch and not because of the subject matter either azurnoir Dec 2013 #47

You're not seeing the potential... shaayecanaan Dec 2013 #56

I enjoyed the bit about Jewish colonists living in Tel Aviv... shira Dec 2013 #24

Israeli has BEEN an Israeli much longer than you have. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #5

wow..so you think immigrants are 2nd class? pelsar Dec 2013 #6

I don't think immigrants are second-class either-and you know that. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #32

Ill let you apologize to me... pelsar Dec 2013 #35

Explaining why you disagree with a person is one thing. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #38

this is all about culture..... pelsar Dec 2013 #39

You apparently haven't seen American political culture lately. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #40

i'm very aware of american culture pelsar Dec 2013 #42

OK, I haven't shared jokes with one Ken Burch Dec 2013 #45

your the one who wants to limit free speech.... pelsar Dec 2013 #46

thanks Ken ... Israeli Dec 2013 #13

Two corrections, King_David Dec 2013 #29

I've corrected that. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #34

What nonsense, King_David Dec 2013 #28

But an immigrant to Israel can't claim to be "more Israeli" than Israeli is...ok? Ken Burch Dec 2013 #33

My grandparents were born in Palestine King_David Dec 2013 #36

So you are both equally Israeli. Ken Burch Dec 2013 #37

You seem to think you have the ability to decide King_David Dec 2013 #49

What fictitious country were your (grand)parents born in? R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #51

WTF you talking about? King_David Dec 2013 #52

"What's your connection to our country !" R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #54

I'm Jewish King_David Dec 2013 #59

I am part of a diaspora, have dual citizenship with the R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #64

Just as I thought.. King_David Dec 2013 #66

Well, Dave, you certainly have horsesh!t in this race if you are going to R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #67

Most of us posting in this forum are motivated by the same thing King_David Dec 2013 #68

My motivation is human rights for one. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #69

Your ridiculous bigoted post King_David Dec 2013 #70

Oh, poor, poor dave can't answer the question now. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Dec 2013 #72

Could you explain this a little better so we can all understand ? King_David Dec 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Dec 2013 #77

Your prerogative it's just too bad posting something so jumbled King_David Dec 2013 #80

Your motivation is not human rights. Who do u think you're fooling? shira Dec 2013 #78

And once again the purulent homunculus disgorges a litany of unfounded accusations. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #90

If you're so concerned about Palestinian human rights.... shira Dec 2013 #94

Please review post #90 for any further purulent discharges you may have. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #95

IOW, Palestinian rights are important to u only when Israel can be bashed. shira Dec 2013 #96

Hush now. #90. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #97

Yes, #90 goes to show you're only interested... shira Dec 2013 #98

Poor you, Shira. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #99

Tell me again how much u care about Palestinian human rights....pretty please? shira Dec 2013 #100

My position is clear. It has been clear. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #101

My grandparents were born in the British Mandate King_David Dec 2013 #60

Seeing how you called it Palestine R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #61

Yes it does absolutely, King_David Dec 2013 #62

"I'm a Jew that's what the conflict is all about." R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #63

Nope King_David Dec 2013 #65

"Jews living in "their" neighborhood" Wrong. I'd wager that the Palestininas R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #73

Really? King_David Dec 2013 #75

Yes, really; especially since the West Bank has been overrun with illegals. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #76

No not really : King_David Dec 2013 #79

Blablabla... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #81

Yea it doesn't matter King_David Dec 2013 #82

To drop your own words back in yor lap R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #83

The Jewish States an Apartheid state ? King_David Dec 2013 #85

Well, to quote you...on you. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #88

You can quote me all you want, and I do say some pretty amazing and profound stuff, King_David Dec 2013 #89

"But it's gotta be contextual else it doesn't make sense..." R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #91

Guess you needed deflect away from the discussion nt King_David Dec 2013 #92

No, I'm just bringing you back to reality. R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Dec 2013 #84

Seriously, it is like a broken record... R. Daneel Olivaw Dec 2013 #86

I don't see any "sarcasm" thingy there , King_David Dec 2013 #87

I think Muslims rafeh1 Dec 2013 #57

Yes, Hillel must host asshole extremists against Israel's existence.... shira Dec 2013 #102

Vassar Jewish Union declares itself an 'Open Hillel� Israeli Feb 2014 #103