Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Palestinian television still glorifies terror attacks against Israel [View all]shira
(30,109 posts)...is just as bad as occupation/settler policy in the W.Bank and Gaza. The hate and incitement is due to Israeli actions in your opinion.
Well at least that's something, I guess. Pathetic, but something nonetheless.
To answer you, yes I'm for 2 states, but what kind of 2 state solution are you promoting in which that kind of Palestinian hatred and incitement to genocide continues to be promoted, sponsored, encouraged, and rewarded by the PA and Hamas? I'd like a real answer to that one.
I believe all hate incitement needs to be dealt with before any 2 state settlement. And no, it's not demonizing Palestinians by bringing up all that genocidal, antisemitic, neo-nazi style rhetoric. No more than legit criticism against Israel and some of its Arab hating settlers is demonization.
And no, I don't believe PMW style Palestinian hate and incitement is due to Israeli policy, since it existed well before 1948. I think it's pathetic that you place the blame for such genocidal Jew hatred on Jews themselves.
As to my own criticism and condemnation of Israeli policies, I don't have any problem condemning any of their immoral, unjust, or illegal actions. I support real liberals who advocate on behalf of both Israelis and Palestinians and fight against that. It appears that you, OTOH, either fear criticizing Palestinians or you're not at all bothered by what they do (like in the PMW videos).
Can you imagine that PMW crap happening in reverse, with Israelis guilty of all that? And the pro-Israel crowd here refusing to condemn it, nor show any disgust and outrage? Can you imagine them making excuses for it? No, I can't either. Now imagine how you guys look to us when none of that disturbs you.