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shira

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16. So you acknowledge it's happening & that Palestinian hate/incitement to genocide...
Thu Feb 23, 2012, 02:52 PM
Feb 2012

...is just as bad as occupation/settler policy in the W.Bank and Gaza. The hate and incitement is due to Israeli actions in your opinion.

Well at least that's something, I guess. Pathetic, but something nonetheless.



To answer you, yes I'm for 2 states, but what kind of 2 state solution are you promoting in which that kind of Palestinian hatred and incitement to genocide continues to be promoted, sponsored, encouraged, and rewarded by the PA and Hamas? I'd like a real answer to that one.

I believe all hate incitement needs to be dealt with before any 2 state settlement. And no, it's not demonizing Palestinians by bringing up all that genocidal, antisemitic, neo-nazi style rhetoric. No more than legit criticism against Israel and some of its Arab hating settlers is demonization.

And no, I don't believe PMW style Palestinian hate and incitement is due to Israeli policy, since it existed well before 1948. I think it's pathetic that you place the blame for such genocidal Jew hatred on Jews themselves.

As to my own criticism and condemnation of Israeli policies, I don't have any problem condemning any of their immoral, unjust, or illegal actions. I support real liberals who advocate on behalf of both Israelis and Palestinians and fight against that. It appears that you, OTOH, either fear criticizing Palestinians or you're not at all bothered by what they do (like in the PMW videos).

Can you imagine that PMW crap happening in reverse, with Israelis guilty of all that? And the pro-Israel crowd here refusing to condemn it, nor show any disgust and outrage? Can you imagine them making excuses for it? No, I can't either. Now imagine how you guys look to us when none of that disturbs you.

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When can we expect the bombing to commence, before or after they "do" Iran? leveymg Feb 2012 #1
Why would the Palestinians bomb Iran? DUIC Feb 2012 #2
If the Israelis want to respond with bottle rockets and mortars, they're perfectly entitled to their leveymg Feb 2012 #3
Qassams and Grads are scarcely bottle rockets ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #5
These "bottle rockets"... holdencaufield Feb 2012 #7
They're flying pipe bombs (literally). Not militarily effective. leveymg Feb 2012 #12
What total and utter nonsense ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #40
Ok, it's like tossing 4 grenades 4 miles, and about as accurate. Happy now? leveymg Feb 2012 #42
Yes, they're just little bottle rockets & firecrackers. You keep telling yourself that... shira Feb 2012 #45
But you would presumably be outraged if Israel deliberately targeting Palestinian civilians... shira Feb 2012 #13
I'd be reassurred that far fewer of them would be killed if both used the same crude weapons leveymg Feb 2012 #14
So IOW, you'd prefer the IDF deliberately targeting Palestinian civilians w/ crude weaponry... shira Feb 2012 #17
One might conclude from that you like the sort of ordinance that kills the most Palest. "bad guys?" leveymg Feb 2012 #18
Targeting civilians with no military purpose is always wrong. shira Feb 2012 #19
Bottle rockets that rarely hit anything can't be said to be targeting anyone. leveymg Feb 2012 #20
Damn big bottle rockets DUIC Feb 2012 #21
Never seen an RPG before? Want to see a real missile, not a bottle rocket? Check out the Jericho 3 leveymg Feb 2012 #27
How many Jericho IIIs were fired into Gaza DUIC Feb 2012 #31
Problem is, only one would obliterate Gaza and central Israel with it leveymg Feb 2012 #32
The problem is your mischaracterization of Qassam Rockets and other weapons as bottle rockets DUIC Feb 2012 #33
That might be your headline, but not mine. leveymg Feb 2012 #34
Redux DUIC Feb 2012 #35
I've seen tree limbs do more damage to a roof, and badly behaved 3rd graders can mess up a classroom leveymg Feb 2012 #36
Ha, go ahead and minimise this, I would like to imagine how long the USA would tolerate King_David Feb 2012 #37
We in the good ole USA didn't tolerate that sort of thing. Crunchy Frog Feb 2012 #39
You are aware that in addition to Qassams, Grad rockets are being launched from Gaza ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2012 #41
Unless used in a massed salvo, also militarily ineffective. Not worth all the hysteria leveymg Feb 2012 #43
Rather than deflecting, why not share your thoughts on the Haaretz article in the OP? n/t shira Feb 2012 #6
IMO Israel's supporters are obsessed with proving how horrid the Palestinians are because azurnoir Feb 2012 #8
You didn't comment on the OP either. You also deflected. shira Feb 2012 #9
yes I did comment on the OP but you do not like the comment azurnoir Feb 2012 #10
No, you didn't comment on it. I'm expecting some reaction to it... shira Feb 2012 #11
The so called "narrative" is played out daily in the West Bank and East Jerusalem azurnoir Feb 2012 #15
So you acknowledge it's happening & that Palestinian hate/incitement to genocide... shira Feb 2012 #16
lots of yak and little milk and you side stepped my question along with false allegations again azurnoir Feb 2012 #22
I get it. You're not disturbed in the least by all that PA/Hamas incitement in the PMW videos... shira Feb 2012 #23
oh no shira I do not expect you top be disturbed by anything Israel does azurnoir Feb 2012 #24
But what are you disturbed by WRT the community center? That it was demolished... shira Feb 2012 #25
EU condemns demolitions in Silwan azurnoir Feb 2012 #26
Is it fair to say yr FAR more disturbed w/demolition in Silwan than the content in PMW videos? shira Feb 2012 #28
I'm disturbed by both azurnoir Feb 2012 #29
You didn't answer the question. Based on your history here, it appears yr FAR more... shira Feb 2012 #30
and you got your answer I;m disturbed by both azurnoir Feb 2012 #44
its called terrorism.... pelsar Feb 2012 #38
Not surprising since Palestinian TV has a childrens show COLGATE4 Feb 2012 #4
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